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I posted 500 picks on Twitter vs. real lines and hit 56%. IOW, nothing that's going to be noticed in a place where touts routinely hit "70%." But I'll probably be posting plays again this year. It's a way of opposing touts--by giving their customers better picks for free than they get for money--without getting into pointless screaming matches with the frauds. And believe me, when you call out the Twitter touts (twouts?), they start screaming. Miss groovin, for sure.

Though I like JK, if EOG is down, good. Forums need to consolidate. TGF is fine. Wish they'd offer the things Covers and SBR offer, to get over the hump on traffic and take advantage of the sports betting boom though.

Jerry's has a decent coffee shop, independent lines (work around the limits a little by betting parlays, though they aren't clueless about what you're doing). Used to have a guy in my bet group that lived up there (had no car, resided at Desert Manor, walked to Jerry's, El C, and other downtown joints). Never got his 300 pound ass mugged. Pretended to limp to justify having a heavy cane, but it was for show. But I always thought Jerry's had the most dangerous parking lot in the sports betting world (Hollywood Park had the most dangerous lot in poker world, but may have lost the title). WWW not as bad, to me, and quickest in-and-out Stations counter. If someone was to move to Vegas and get started with this biz, I'd absolutely recommend hitting Jerry's. I think they'll let you beat them for $300 bets forever, on major sports; maybe a nickle, don't know for sure. When you're building your roll, you're supposed to work a little harder, and driving up there is just work.

Both completely worthless. Nothing original in them, nothing useful, nothing that can't be found for free elsewhere. People just re-package stats, and they aren't even the useful stats. But nonetheless, thanks for posting all these newsletters. Still appreciated.

Sweep, I didn't say that post was new stuff, but that thread is new, only a week old I think. And we don't have threads like that often in the forum world anymore, whereas we used to have them all the time, back in the day. Kind of old school forum shit, lol. Anyone is, of course, free to not read it.

Think he had problems with Eric Lindgren, too, but, whatever, he was lying down with dogs, so ... fleas. The basic idea was to have proven big sports betting losers bet on his behalf, which was risky biz considering how many of them are degen.

Comes across like that to me, too. Bit entitled.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=52629255&postcount=180 I just think its hilarious that you guys keep on referencing me owning a piece of WS as some smoking gun discovery - When I am the one who divulged this info ON THIS VERY WEBSITE. Great detective work guys, how did you manage to figure that one out. Also why is it so hard to believe that in 2000 you could get down 75k (value in CAD bc I was Canadian betting in USD) on a futures bet without moving the number do you have any idea how many books were around in 2000 and how disconnected the market was back then? There were people earning a very good living just scalping MLB back then because the market was that inefficient. Its also hilarious that you mentioned me betting 250k a game and not understanding that pre UIGEA getting down that much $ was a breeze. In fact Pre 2008 (Donaghy) you could get down 100k on a 1h total in Asia alone if you had the right connections. Its kind of comical how out of touch a lot of you guys are with what goes down with betting large amounts of money. Why is it so hard to believe that I'd have a small amount of $ with Nitro in 2015 when 1 - they offer instant w/ds (why would you ever carry more than a few bets worth of postup with them at a time). 2. They offer anonymous accounts. Do you have any idea how betting large amts of money works nowadays (or in 2015)? I'll explain it for you in case you don't (in order of preference). 1. You find a great beard who can bet big amounts of cash with a reputable spot, preferably in the UK. Once upon a time a big UK book was taking 50-75k GBP on NBA totals from "me" (really my beard) That place nowonly takes 20k gbp on full game totals and 500 gpb on half totals no matter how good the beard from my understanding. 1a. You can beard into the guy from TX who has the biggest set of balls of any bookmaker you could ever imagine. Pretty sure he just got arrested, and may or not have went broke prior to that (wonder how). 2. You get some good asian outs through a beard (the .hgs) where you can get down a decent amount without moving the market. Its my understanding that these places are tougher to bet now as well as they open limits later and later in the day and if you want to bet in the morning you have to click a game 50-60x to get down 10k (they take micro limits and force you to click it over and over again, don't ask me why but thats what they do). They will also take a game offline after you make a few bets and more aggressively move the # 3. You try using a VIP brokerage like Matchbook VIP, they at times can be brutal to work with will blast market and will often go out on games before you give it to them if they can figure out what sides you seem to be favoring on a daily basis. In fact the 1h / 2h total plays that were great from 2000-2013 were ruined when Jan (perp czech) figured out this angle and Matchbook VIP started letting people bet 75k on 1h totals in either 2013 or 2014 I forget which year that was. 4. You get a ton of micro click accounts from lots of different agents. I think the smallest account I'd have taken in 2014-2015 was around 200-300 my end, you then stick them in your autobettor. The Agent gets somewhere between 30-70% depending on how pieced out the account was, a lot of volume nowadays goes through PPH outlaw spots. The last year I was doing this full time we had >150 micro click accounts in our auto betttor. So knowing all of that and knowing that I've been super long BTC since the very beginning, (I was mocked on twitter for being long BTC when it dropped from 1000 to 300) why wouldn't I want to *print* a free 10-15btc a week with nitrogen? Keep in mind that i have 100% Of the account which is almost NEVER THE CASE. How is this so hard to believe. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to actually bet games nowadays for scale? This isn't 2005 where you could just get down 100k without even trying. Everything was so much easier 5-7 years ago, nowadays betting is just a **** show. In fact betting in 2010 was a ****show, but even in 2010 it was miles and mils better than it is now. In 2010ish when Pinny was still wide open with credit accounts in the US you could manage to get yourself an anonymous bluecircle account if you knew the right people and just blast pinnacle for a few weeks. For those unfamiliar with bluecircle accounts, they were double or triple limit accounts for VIPs (usually big losers) and Pinny *might* move the number 1-3 cents after a bet. *might* I say for a few weeks because eventually pinnacle would figure out the account was sharp and close the account or return it to regular limits or to a level where the number moves AND a trader is informed of the bet so they can make the proper adjustments (lay off etc). When that would happened the agent (if you had a good one) would just get you a new one and you could possibly repeat the process over again a few times. Some other things you seem to have trouble understanding - I took a year off in the 2010 season to do some consulting work with an NBA team - I didn't like it and returned to betting 2011-2015ish. Since 2015ish I've been at best part time and in the case of the last 1.5 years I've been working on something unrelated and not involved with betting at all.\ Why would I do this when I could still win? Because I don't need more $ (remember i made all my money because I owned a piece of a fledgling crappy online book) Betting is a pain in the ass nowadays, I've been stiffed, slow paid and hustled for more money than most of you guys will see in your lifetime. I had a "pro poker player" who bearded me into the best book in the world, paid me the first 2m that I won and then who managed to lose 9-10m to the bookie betting his own stuff and wasn't able to pay me the remaining balance I'm owed. You have to deal with the super clever agents who give you 5-10 accounts and then keep 15-20 for themselves so they can get access to your information and bet more $ for themselves because they are greedy. Its not as exciting for me as it used to be. And finally - I've got too much other stuff going on right now.

Yeah, opening page is irrelevant. Gets good when Ed Golden/RAS and Harolobos Voulgaris/Coltranedog join in, the latter reacting to Mikhel05/Thremp's accusations. Best part is Hbobs account of the difficulties of being a big player, which he claims, difficult as it was years ago, is more problematic now. FWIW, everything he says rings true with what I know of this biz. I understand, btw, that some of his past claims seem, and may be, dubious. But that he was a big player for years is true.

If this post is rude, mods, take it down, you know I mean no ill will here. But there is a thread at another forum that is freaking explosive, and some of you guys would otherwise miss it because it isn't "across the street," it's in a non-sports betting joint. Haralobos and RAS involved. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/40/sports-betting/who-legit-top-sports-bettors-1671678/

I've probably had 6-7 American dentists in my life, and 3 times been to Mexican dentists (in Mexico). Mexican dentists >>>>gringo dentists. 3x better at 1/3 price.

I have no idea why I thought this thread would be about tonight's Gold Cup game.

And the Irish aren't even here yet.

Poker world overwhelmingly on MacGregor. Awesome. Personally, I think the fact MacGregor isn't working his way up the boxing ladder means he and Dana White well know he'll be instantly exposed in the ring, so they only get one shot at this scam, so go for the big money. FM by TKO.