trytrytry Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It will be made right I am sure. But interesting to wonder.......... if wagers had lost would thread have been created? if wagers had lost and HR went in 2 days latter and graded them as losses and said "oppps we didn't mean to cancel" would that be ok cuz George and HR have to fix this winning play right away and somehow get out of some 3rd party being able to cancel plays they have no idea are happening or not. to question the posters intentions or this or that scenerio that is really wrong. the post up player always takes ALL the risk, why? well they send actually real money away first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hels Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Glad the situation was resolved appropriately but HR or people who represent HR have ZERO right to defer the blame on pph. It is HR's choice to use that service and if that service fucks up then HR fucks up. OP was correct in bringing the situation to the forums. HR fucked up but made it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 cuz George and HR have to fix this winning play right away and somehow get out of some 3rd party being able to cancel plays they have no idea are happening or not. to question the posters intentions or this or that scenerio that is really wrong. the post up player always takes ALL the risk, why? well they send actually real money away first. Absolutely no reason to come down on the thread starter. His post was based on the response he had already gotten from live chat. He presented his case brilliantly providing perfect evidence to support his claims. These are what forums are all about. Most reasonable people will read the thread and agree with the poster and will also agree that George handled it properly. As try pointed out we learned a great deal about the power of a Pph over hrwager that we wouldn't know without this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70kgman Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 A thread title like "hey guys look what happened. I think its wrong. What do you think" I wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought. But that wasn't the tone at all. It was basically "hey look HR fucked me be careful or they may fuck you" Now what purpose did that serve at this time? talk about counter productive to your cause.............. I probably should of worded the title more neutral. But in my defense, I never wanted to make a thread about it at all. I tried to get it taken care of privately via live chat and a PM on the forum first. Was lied to and quickly gotten rid of on live chat with a resolution of basically "We're right, you're wrong", and never got a reply to the pm (I saw the green light next to their name on here saying they were online several times while I was waiting). At that point I was starting to feel cheated and ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 . As try pointed out we learned a great deal about the power of a Pph over hrwager that we wouldn't know without this thread. It's been known from the start that they use a PPH. They aren't a book, you are just using a local that happens to be in Costa Rica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 good luck trying to defend this some more boat lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Strongly disagree with Boats position on this.. I like George and think HRWager has been EXTREMELY solid in dealing with me, and others on the forums which is no easy task but the players are at war with the books. I don't see anything wrong with the OP bringing this to the forums. George, as expected, remedied the issue and we all move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It's been known from the start that they use a PPH. They aren't a book, you are just using a local that happens to be in Costa Rica. I didn't know their Pph could cancel a wager, did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 When a PPH thinks they dealt a BAD line they will cancel the wager. if at all possible PRIOR to the game. All PPHs I know of do this. IMO this line was NOT BAD and the PPH should not have canceled it. Being a "book" is not determined by if you use proprietary software or rented software (pph) to think it is foolish I know of underfunded books that don't use PPH and I know of books a wash in $ who use PPH. there is little to no correlation in many cases. I enjoy reading the comments from those who have the perception they are "in the know" but aren't. Quite humorous......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Not that anyone cares but just spent the last 5 mins in PPH's chat ripping ass. Bounced it to 2nd level. I don't have a dog in the fight............but this looks bad. They need to know the damage they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It isn't the job of a Pph to cancel a wager especially without the knowledge of the book using them. If it is then that is news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It is not uncommon at all WVU. I have spoke my piece. if I offended anyone I apologize . I have nothing else to add, and maybe some will feel I haven't added anything to date. That's fine. I know where and what my thoughts and ideas are based in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It isn't the job of a Pph to cancel a wager especially without the knowledge of the book using them. If it is then that is news to me. Happens all the time, had it happen tons of times to me. Oftentimes I'd just let it slide as contacting the bookie/agent and getting them to fix it just would cause problems. The PPH does all the line functions (posting, moving, grading, canceling bad lines, etc) -- that's why a sportsbook using one is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 A thread title like "hey guys look what happened. I think its wrong. What do you think" I wouldn't have given it a 2nd thought. But that wasn't the tone at all. It was basically "hey look HR fucked me be careful or they may fuck you" Now what purpose did that serve at this time? talk about counter productive to your cause.............. When a bettor sends his money to Costa Rica (with no guarantee of ever seeing it again) he has the right to tell people on the forums how he's being treated. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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