This forum has now been legitamized (boats let's off some steam)

[Hedge]

Well men, i'm here

 

now, lets get down to business

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjbyzO9RK5w

 

BANNED! Now it's been legitimized. TGF is a stiff-free site.

 

 

[GusGreenbaum]

Checking in folks.

 

The dumb schmo didn't even spell "legitimized" correctly before getting the boot.

 

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[evade]

This is already the second most popular thread. TGF has done Brock a favor by banning him.

[LCD]

Haha!

 

Also howdy to Vermeer girl with trash bag on head!

[evade]

[Chickadee]

:smiley-laughing001:

[Yoda]

This dude must be a complete nutsack? Banned after 2 post!! LMFAO. What's his story?

[RealSlimShady]

This dude must be a complete nutsack? Banned after 2 post!! LMFAO. What's his story?

 

 

 

:smiley-laughing001:

[Guest boatboatboat]

I do find it quite interesting that at the height of Brocks improper behavior Kelly embraced him while the rest of the EOG staff was left to answer questions and ATTEMPT to justify Brock being at EOG.

 

Looks like now that no other fall guys are in place and the buck only has one place to land, Kelly doesn't publicly feel the same about Brock.

 

 

[JAKEPEAVY21]

interesting..first they cling on to him and put him on radio and now they show him the door...

 

where will brock post now? is he banned at every forum on the net?

[Cadillac Pete]

I do find it quite interesting that at the height of Brocks improper behavior Kelly embraced him while the rest of the EOG staff was left to answer questions and ATTEMPT to justify Brock being at EOG.

 

Looks like now that no other fall guys are in place and the buck only has one place to land, Kelly doesn't publicly feel the same about Brock.

 

 

Boat,

 

I don't want to dwell on the topic of Brock Landers anymore, but I have ask.

 

Brock is a JJ Gold disciple...JJ makes up all these outlandish things and then those things take on life of their own. He has a big following and that following creates traffic. But apparently JJ has admitted he is an "act". Yet still draws the crowd.

 

So is Brock an act to drive traffic and create drama?? Do forums need a heel? I really thought the SB bet stunt was stagged.

 

[Guest boatboatboat]

The SB was not an act.

 

As far as I know 100% of the crap we see Brock evolved in is 100% real as sad as that may be.

 

EOG knew Brock was making SB wagers and giving out a horrible number.

 

It was pretty obvious he was doing this because he needed "credit" to wager with due to a limited bankroll.

 

At halftime when it was obvious his wagers were toast he contacted me via PM and asked how he should tell the 10 or so posters at EOG he wouldn't be able to pay them as quickly as they would want. I shoulda given him Laura's number or asked if he had called Kelly. But Brock knew they wouldn't or couldn't do shit.

 

At that time I went into damage control mode. I saw what I perceived as an event that would damage EOG a great deal because they had allowed this to happen.

 

You can bet your ass no one currently at EOG would have been able to or cared enough to do what was done SB nite in a matter of hours to see the posters there weren't stiffed.

 

Kinda sucked to watch EOG brass allow Brock to take a free shot at half the board and when the shit hit the fan, good ole boat and HR are left to sweep the mess up while the brass continues to protect, coddle and promote BROCK FUCKING LANDERS.

 

I attempted to make Lemonade out of lemons.

 

My thought process was this: If I could persuade HR wager to bail out the EOG posters by loaning Brock the funds and seeing that EOG posters were paid in full and paid quickly it would accomplish two things.

 

#1 See that no EOG posters could or would get stiffed, there by eliminating the potential of blaming EOG for them getting stiffed.

 

#2 Showing players that HRWager was in for the long haul. Every year about NFL playoff time the doomsayers will start with the rumors that this book or that book will take the cash after the Super Bowl or March madness and run withy it. The hope was that if reasonable people saw that HRwager was BAILING out EOG posters for 5-6k (or what ever the amount was) that it was obvious they weren't leaving.

 

What was meant to help EOG posters in the end caused posters to pile on me and HRWager to an extent too.

 

I never really got the logic in that at all.

 

It was 100% out of my control if Brock was banned or not, or allowed to bet with posters on credit with a bogus line or be the EOG Big ten expert or EOG radio regular before and after Brock ran a scam on half the board.. But it was in my control to try and see no one was harmed as a result of his actions. So I did my best. What I got for my efforts was fuck blasted. I shall not forget that...........

 

If anyone else thinks there is a Mod (other than me) at a forum that could or would arrange a bailout for mid 4 figures in 2 hours, the nite of a Super Bowl to see that the posters on that forum aren't stiffed...........I would love to know who you think that Mod is.

[taxman]

Just my opinion, but the appearance was your were teaming up with and saving that scumbag. Also, to me, the posters that bet with him would have gotten EXACTLY what they deserved if they had been stiffed. These guys were betting with Brock fucking Landers, and with all due respect, it came off as a publicity stunt for HR and you being the ring leader of the fuster cluck. You should have let the chips fall where they may. You were enabling a punk and degenerate. Again, just my opinion from the outside looking in.

 

Peace,

 

taxman

[Deemer]

Boat,

 

I think it came off wrong for several reasons.

 

1) You never really condemned Brock's actions, you always said "the people got paid and Brock is on a payment plan to George". You never came out and said - What brock did was bullshit and I don't agree with it, but I offered my assistance.

 

2) It looked so swiftly/quickly the night of the SBowl it made people feel as if it had been "set-up"

 

3) The fukker was still posting betting tickets / wagers while on a payment plan to George, I know you couldn't make Brock pay George, but in my opinion -- I think your "generosity" only hurt George. How did YOU KNOW Brock would pay George? Guy is a true scumbag. Only thing holding him back was a ban from EoG, because lord knows... he loves forums more than his family.

 

SALUD

[Guest boatboatboat]

If brock had bet posters from another forum I wouldn't have done shit.

 

he didn't

 

he bet EOG posters. (sometimes caring about people puts one in bad positions)

 

It wasn't my fault EOG brass was to fucking greedy for page views and allowed it to happen.

 

It was my "fault" (if you care to use that word) that EOG posters did NOT get harmed and were paid.

 

Basically the people making REAL $ sat on their ass and allowed the scam to happen and the 100 dollar a week guy came in and cleaned up the mess.

 

 

[Hedge]

It was sickening that HRW was attacked for bailing out the EOG victims. Instead it was viewed incorrectly by many as a bailout for Brock. I guess the saying is true: "No good deed goes unpunished".

[milwaukee mike]

"most" of landers' stuff is true unfortunately as boat3 said. he used to tell me that 100% of his forum stuff was true, then whenever he tries to meet me he says "don't believe my forum stuff". so i'm pretty sure eric has blurred the lines so often that he can't tell the difference between truth and lies any more.

 

[BigDaddy]

It was sickening that HRW was attacked for bailing out the EOG victims. Instead it was viewed incorrectly by many as a bailout for Brock. I guess the saying is true: "No good deed goes unpunished".

agree. i wish HRW was around when atrain stiffed BigDaddy out of $400. nobody cared bak then. HRW should get props for not letting all those members be stiffed on superbowl.

[Guest boatboatboat]

Boat,

 

I think it came off wrong for several reasons.

 

1) You never really condemned Brock's actions,

 

yes I did

 

 

2) It looked so swiftly/quickly the night of the SBowl it made people feel as if it had been "set-up"

 

 

 

yea I do stuff pretty quick. Always have. ya need something done, ya call me. I don't fuck around.

 

 

 

 

 

3) The fukker was still posting betting tickets / wagers while on a payment plan to George,

 

Yes he was. Not anything I could do about that.

 

 

3) I know you couldn't make Brock pay George, but in my opinion -- I think your "generosity" only hurt George.

 

It may have. Very difficult to measure for sure. I know George felt shit on too after he bailed out half the board, people said he bailed out brock. he didn't bail out brock, he HELPED EOG posters to see they didn't get harmed.

 

 

. How did YOU KNOW Brock would pay George?

 

I didn't. But I was prepared to if it was the only way George would be made whole again.

 

 

 

 

[Deemer]

Fair enough. As I said, just my 2c from the backlash.

 

Carry on. Steer clear of the goofballs.

 

[DJDalamar]

Boat I don't normally agree with conspiracy theorist or pile on, but even I thought it was suspicious. I'm not going to go dig the thread back up but I'm pretty sure you were egging on the bets and GUARANTEEING people would get paid if Brock lost the bet.

 

You were on a big PR kick at that time promoting your payment to Cory and the famous Big Daddy thread, and here you are publicly backing Brocks bets. Then when he gets crushed here comes Boat to rescue again with a big pay out from your best buddy George.

 

There is no way you can look at it that way and not suspect it was a set up from the beginning.

 

If you weren't in on it from the beginning why were you guaranteeing the people betting with Brock will get paid?

 

I'm not hating on you for it. In today's world you have to do something to stand out if your a book not named 5Dimes\Bookmaker, and you have a knack for out of the box thinking. Forum guys will hate on you no matter what you do. Same guys that bash you were the first to stand up and tell everyone how great Tuckman was. Your never going to win the PR battle with the forum so you might as well be upfront and disliked for who you are.

[milwaukee mike]

i would like to point out i also disagree with who was bailed out/helped. brock was bailed out, because he was the one that was owing. paying people that knowingly took a bad line isn't heroic, but it also isn't terrible.

 

i still wonder what would've happened if denver won/covered that super bowl. how many debts to landers would've been paid, how many sportsbooks might not be around, etc...

[Guest boatboatboat]

. brock was bailed out' date=' because he was the one that was owing....[/quote']

 

 

So if Bet islands folds and has $500 of your money Mike, and Joes Bookie shop comes to you and says "Mike we will put 500 in your account, what bet Islands did is horrible"

 

bet Islands is getting bailed out and NOT YOU?

 

And people could say "well that Joe is a piece of shit, why did he bail out bet islands that way. bet Islands are scammers, why bail them out?"

[Guest boatboatboat]

you might as well be upfront .

 

I agree and I was.

 

 

[milwaukee mike]

 

 

So if Bet islands folds and has $500 of your money Mike, and Joes Bookie shop comes to you and says "Mike we will put 500 in your account, what bet Islands did is horrible"

 

bet Islands is getting bailed out and NOT YOU?

 

And people could say "well that Joe is a piece of shit, why did he bail out bet islands that way. bet Islands are scammers, why bail them out?"

 

betislands has 2600 of my money not 500 lol

 

but yes betislands is the one getting bailed out in the definition of the word, i am the one getting helped though. do i deserve to be helped is the better question, i knew the risks/rewards of playing at online sportsbooks. and it's a bit different because people have eric's personal information and could find him easily enough, i think at the end of the day most people would agree that he deserves to have his ass kicked for all the people/businesses he has cheated over the years.