WVU Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 If I hire somebody thru aflooring store furniture store, do they normally do all the prep work like removing and reinstalling the toilet/vanity? They are out of there now from when I painted, but I have no idea how to put them back. Will they do that or will I have to call a handyman /plumber also? Ok just now got a call from a guy who is going to come actually look at the project...he told me it's better to pull old stuff up which I thought....he seems competent. He is going to come by this evening and give a quote...he also is contracted with the tile store so could get it done more quickly. If there are other questions that I should ask this guy, let me know. I appreciate all the input in here.yes they will do all the prep work necessary, but they will charge for it. I charged $25 for toilet removal/install but that was 20 years ago. They also won't cut your doors, so if the tile + underlayment doesn't allow your door to close you are fucked. Our guys would do it with an undercut saw, but they charged the homeowner directly for that. We never wanted to be responsible for doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I did tile work for 16 1/2yrs. I would recommend epoxy grout. It's a little more money but it's stain proof and will last for ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsouth Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 WVU is right in my opinion. Definitely go with Porcelain. For that small of bathroom costs difference shouldn't be much. And I wouldn't attempt diy. I can show you a recent tile nightmare on some cheap duplexes I built recently where I cheaped out and used lessor tile guy and it looks terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barman Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 IAG mentioned in the Hey Boat! thread her lack of confidence she lives past 2018, so maybe just putting some plastic tarp down could settle this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I did tile work for 16 1/2yrs. I would recommend epoxy grout. It's a little more money but it's stain proof and will last for ever.yes, good point. And never go with white grout. Use as dark a color that you can get away with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 yes they will do all the prep work necessary, but they will charge for it. I charged $25 for toilet removal/install but that was 20 years ago. They also won't cut your doors, so if the tile + underlayment doesn't allow your door to close you are fucked. Our guys would do it with an undercut saw, but they charged the homeowner directly for that. We never wanted to be responsible for doors.This tile is $4.89. 12x12 at Menard's..not sure if wholesaler will be more or less. ,,I'll have to find the site to see exactly what it is. Great point on the door...I didn't think about that.. I put in all new stainless steel appliances a few months back and the guy at Best Buy told me appliance sizes would match what space I currently have. The appliances fit fine, but the handle on the dishwasher stuck out so far it prevents me from one of my silverware drawers.It didn't even occur to me that the other dishwasher had a built in handle underneath..so yeah...don't want problem with the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I did tile work for 16 1/2yrs. I would recommend epoxy grout. It's a little more money but it's stain proof and will last for ever.Will do!! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 unless they are loose and coming up they wont have to remove them. They will/should install concrete backerboard right over top of it. Don't let them put cheap vinyl cove base around the edges. make sure they use the same tile around the edges on the wall but with a nice beveled edge. The edging is what really makes a nice tile job. The 1/2 inch step shouldn't be a problem as they have transitions to deal with that.Well shit...they are not loose or coming up. This second guy acted like they should come out for the most even work. I'll ask him again when he comes. He may have assumed they're coming up or something. Maybe I'll do audio recording and let u guys see if what he says makes sense. I would be easy to take advantage of with stuff like this since I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 IAG mentioned in the Hey Boat! thread her lack of confidence she lives past 2018, so maybe just putting some plastic tarp down could settle thisI don't want to leave it to my brothers to have to deal with when I'm gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Well shit...they are not loose or coming up. This second guy acted like they should come out for the most even work. I'll ask him again when he comes. He may have assumed they're coming up or something. Maybe I'll do audio recording and let u guys see if what he says makes sense. I would be easy to take advantage of with stuff like this since I have no clue.is it wood or concrete underneath? If concrete they can scrape that shit up, but if it is wood, it can sometimes be a bitch to get the tile up without gouging the wood underneath. Thats why some will just put underlayment right on top of the old tile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 is it wood or concrete underneath? If concrete they can scrape that shit up, but if it is wood, it can sometimes be a bitch to get the tile up without gouging the wood underneath. Thats why some will just put underlayment right on top of the old tile.Concrete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barman Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Well shit...they are not loose or coming up. This second guy acted like they should come out for the most even work. I'll ask him again when he comes. He may have assumed they're coming up or something. Maybe I'll do audio recording and let u guys see if what he says makes sense. I would be easy to take advantage of with stuff like this since I have no clue.Make a video of the Quote process and tell dude you are posting it to thegamblingforum.com and see if he offers a discount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Concretedefinitely take the old out then. You won't need underlayment either. They can flash float it smooth with floor patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barman Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I don't want to leave it to my brothers to have to deal with when I'm gone.Come on now....you know you're going to set a slow fuse and burn the joint down after you dose on the bottle of pinot grigio + 10mg xanax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Come on now....you know you're going to set a slow fuse and burn the joint down after you dose on the bottle of pinot grigio + 10mg xanaxWhy would I do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanks Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 IAG just did two floors in a rental house and they dont tell you shit. All of a sudden we were paying for furniture moving,carpet removal,carpet disposal,and a bunch of other things they didnt mention.Lowes or Home Depot? Lowes wanted an extra 900 to flatten the floor in my fathers basement for a floating laminate. This was after it was ripped up and the contract was signed. So he was SOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 I have installed tile in my own house and a few friends'/family houses. I have sold a couple million dollars worth of it. It is a lot of work and dirty. I do own tile tools including a wet saw. The floor has to be absolutely level. You can float it level, but it would probably be better to lay down backer board first.You don't put backer board on a cement basement floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 You don't put backer board on a cement basement floorwhen I posted that I didn't know it wasn't wood underneath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barman Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Why would I do that?blaze of glory and all that...but you may be more low-key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Should the linoleum tiles that are down there now be removed prior to installing the new tile? I thought they would be, but this guy doesn't want to do that. I didn't know if it was for a good reason, or he just didn't want to do the work. If we leave them he said something about there being a half inch step up into the bathroom?. Absolutely they need to be removed, you don't ahere new ceramic over old lick em and stick em tile. Tell that guy to gtfo of your house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 This is the tile. Appears to be porcelain. http://ragnousa.com/series/vesta I told him ceramic when I called him. Does it matter in terms of the project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 blaze of glory and all that...but you may be more low-key Never...my dad built this house...no way I could do that. Why are you assuming I'm planning to take myself out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted August 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 . Absolutely they need to be removed, you don't ahere new ceramic over old lick em and stick em tile.Tell that guy to gtfo of your house. That was the first guy I called. He did not even see the house. I thought that was weird by itself. Yeah, I think he's out regardless. He wasn't all that friendly on the phone either. I like guy number two. He's the one who told me it would need to be removed. He is coming this afternoon or evening to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 unless they are loose and coming up they wont have to remove them. They will/should install concrete backerboard right over top of it. Don't let them put cheap vinyl cove base around the edges. make sure they use the same tile around the edges on the wall but with a nice beveled edge. The edging is what really makes a nice tile job. The 1/2 inch step shouldn't be a problem as they have transitions to deal with that.I think you mean bull nose tile. And backer board is a generic term. It's either cement board or hardy board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 That was the first guy I called. He did not even see the house. I thought that was weird by itself. Yeah, I think he's out regardless. He wasn't all that friendly on the phone either. I like guy number two. He's the one who told me it would need to be removed. He is coming this afternoon or evening to look at it.What flooring is outside of your bathroom in regards transitions and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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