MonkeyF0cker Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 People who claim they can't bet at William Hill just have no imagination at all.Zero. Either that or they have decided that leaving the house is too much of a hassle. The same pretty much goes for Station and Caesars. Ever been to Rancho Wild Wild Westor Fiesta Henderson or El Cortez? There are just too many outlets for them to monitor. Consolidation sucks but it also makes it nearly impossible to keep anyone specific out. William Hill is on a whole different level. If you can't bet at William Hill you aren't trying.Many beg out by posturing big-time and stating that they won't take their bet size.Again - no imagination and/or lazy. The guys that complain just want to bet on the app. I used to bet under the key limit at Stations, run to several different books to get down, and use runners to help me, but that's back when they had numbers that were a lot less market-aligned than they are today. Now, it's just a pain in the ass with far less upside. The apps brought the numbers much closer to market. The same goes with Will Hill. Why waste time and resources when there isn't that big of an advantage against the rest of the market? If it were still 2012, I'd agree with you a lot more. But today, it's not worth it. It's a far bigger advantage to get access to non-US facing offshore books than to go through the bother of sneaking under the radar at Will Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Does any pro gambler outside of rito pick a side and play it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Does any pro gambler outside of rito pick a side and play it? Of course, but you still want to get the best numbers you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Monkey. Who do you think could have 1 out. No idea what other shops have lines at and beat -110 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Monkey. Who do you think could have 1 out. No idea what other shops have lines at and beat -110 ? Anyone with a profitable model in a particular sport could limit themselves to one out. But they'd be missing a decent number of bets along the way. And they would miss out on size eventually after their bankroll eclipses limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 ???? So basicly William Hill says "we don't want to take your action" And you guys say FUCK IT, WE ARE PLAYING THERE ANYHOW. geez...........Dog eat dog world. Get used to it. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I would love to see how these "models" work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Essentially, you're just generating fair value spreads, totals, and/or moneylines. Anything that a book is offering that has value against that number is a bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdmx Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Monkey. Who do you think could have 1 out. No idea what other shops have lines at and beat -110 ? if want to bet even 5k on a ncaab total, im going to have to bet the max at every book I can find and still probably won't get there. Line shopping doesn't come into play unless you are looking to bet less than the limits at one book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdmx Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I would love to see how these "models" work What does this mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 It means I have clue how a person sets up the software to have it work, nor how to obtain and what info input to have it be accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 It means I have clue how a person sets up the software to have it work, nor how to obtain and what info input to have it be accurateJustin 7s book discusses this (even though some of his info is incorrect). BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Any pro that's been in the business any relative length of time does more than line shop and pick off numbers and have been and will be successful moving forward just from that standpoint.......but many and most also line shop and bet +EV numbers, as there are many oppurtunites to do such offshore and throughout Nevada, as well as with locals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdmx Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 It means I have clue how a person sets up the software to have it work, nor how to obtain and what info input to have it be accurate Game_Total = Avg_Pts_Home_Team + Avg_Pts_Away_Team Here's a model. It's worthless but whatever it's a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Marty Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Everyone should be line shopping, even Brock Landers and other mega degenerates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Marty Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 BBB, no one models anything. We all just stare at a screen all day chasing steam (and steam comes from the position of the moon in the sky). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Does any pro gambler outside of rito pick a side and play it? sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Game_Total = Avg_Pts_Home_Team + Avg_Pts_Away_Team Here's a model. It's worthless but whatever it's a start. nice model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 BBB, no one models anything. We all just stare at a screen all day chasing steam (and steam comes from the position of the moon in the sky).What are some closing numbers for NBA on Thursdays games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 What are some closing numbers for NBA on Thursdays games I gave a move yesterday. Did you cash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 No. I missed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 [711] Minnesota +6 is a good number @ Jerry's and Mirage. Should be wiped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yes a good number. Screen watch They are out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdmx Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yes a good number. Screen watch They are out thereWho is moving pinnacle to create those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yes a good number. Screen watch They are out there No. My work tells me that Karl Anthony Towns will be guarded by a second string power forward tonight.. Then we look at the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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