ComptrBob banned from EOG

[Always Call Heads]

Unreal. Clearly not offshore savvy then. 

Don't know. I think they are pretty savvy. Do a lot of stuff through locals. I think with RAS and Dr. Bob they have a lot invested in their reputation and have a certain loyalty to their customers. They are making a fortune and are just happy to continue with what they are doing rather than risk losing it all.

[FISHHEAD]

Marty

 

We are on the Penguins tonight -1.5 +175

[Reno Marty]

We should get Bob to track Brock Landers. No not his plays, actually track his whereabouts. I'd guess a typical day involves a visit to 4 out of the following 5: court, Applebee's, bank, massage parlor with extras, WU/MG shop (to send, not receive).

[Reno Marty]

Marty

 

We are on the Penguins tonight -1.5 +175

 

How much?

And how much are you on the Islanders?

[drnkyourmlkshk1]

RAS also got started without bankroll. He got a web following so started releasing before he had sufficient funds to bet himself. Once you have that kind of guaranteed cash flowing, it is not easy to walk away. So he bets for his own account and does releases as well.

Sorry just wanted to say hi to Bob but have to chime in here.

This is untrue. Edward always bet cbb and had no intentions of becoming a tout in the beginning. He used to answer his phone and coach every player on what number was good or bad because he would move the nunber. He would answer every question every single player had. I remember he let me go get pen and paper on why a buffalo basketball team had value around 2010. He would bet smaller than he probably does now but he was always a gambler first.

 

Hes in a no win situation now imo.

[Always Call Heads]

Sorry just wanted to say hi to Bob but have to chime in here.

This is untrue. Edward always bet cbb and had no intentions of becoming a tout in the beginning. He used to answer his phone and coach every player on what number was good or bad because he would move the nunber. He would answer every question every single player had. I remember he let me go get pen and paper on why a buffalo basketball team had value around 2010. He would bet smaller than he probably does now but he was always a gambler first.

 

Hes in a no win situation now imo.

I don't think that is true. He got started on AOL and was one of the few guys that envisioned himself a tout and pulled it off. They also bet a lot through beards in Vegas and do not move the line since the line moves through offshore. Edward is not the most stand-up of individuals. He has a lot of con man in him. But is honest overall.

[ComptrBob]

If RAS is winning at widely available lines, why aren't they (especially after all these years) betting them so hard that they move the line to where it should be and their bets no longer become widely available?

 

Actually RAS did try front-running (i.e. betting using 3rd parties and splitting the profits) their releases. Of course, they tried hard to fly under the radar and not move the line. As you might expect, once the practice became known, they received resounding criticism from subscribers. As has been pointed out, RAS makes a lot of money from the tout service so I believe they have stopped the front-running.

[FISHHEAD]

2k

 

Bought back +1.5 -158 and -159 $500 each at 5D

 

 

 

 

Thus 1000 to win 1915 on Pens at -1.5

 

 

 

 

5D currently dealing -70/+60 on the puck line

 

 

 

Looking forward to Reno vacation

[FISHHEAD]

..........in other news, the birds of Toronto have me buried early.

 

Headed to The M for comped pizza to relieve the agony.

 

Alert me if you see something of value at Cantor, thanks and best of luck tonight on the racquetball courts.

[drnkyourmlkshk1]

Actually RAS did try front-running (i.e. betting using 3rd parties and splitting the profits) their releases. Of course, they tried hard to fly under the radar and not move the line. As you might expect, once the practice became known, they received resounding criticism from subscribers. As has been pointed out, RAS makes a lot of money from the tout service so I believe they have stopped the front-running.

Hard for me to imagine.. he had a lot of gamble in him but if so good for him. However you know your tout is more legit than RJ bell when on the phone he goes take toronto +136, I meant +133, wait +130 yeah 130 is fine:)

Have a good day fellas

[Always Call Heads]

Hard for me to imagine.. he had a lot of gamble in him but if so good for him. However you know your tout is more legit than RJ bell when on the phone he goes take toronto +136, I meant +133, wait +130 yeah 130 is fine:)

Have a good day fellas

He has admitted to it. It is out there on the internet if you look hard enough.

[ComptrBob]

Since I can't post on EOG, I would like to use TGF to express my thanks to those posters who have supported me and/or questioned the wisdom of my banning.

 

I have read the lengthy thread at EOG and wish to individually thank:

 

GroovinMahoovin, Jasson621, BaseballZealot, WinkyDuck, Just Luck, bomzee, railbird, WeinkeToWarrick, SportsRMyLife, Scooper,

2W2P2S, Inkwell77, Viejo Dinosaur, DrnkYourMlkShk, Kane, Now'sMyRuca, ChiTownJoe, MonkeyF0cker, DrunkenGoon, Heim,

Almost Allright, GameBred, Scrimmage, FairWarning, PalmTree, The Guesser, Discreet Cat, Voodoo, My_nameain'tEarl, HappyTime, ManchesterUK,

Mr.Top, raycabino, WoodrowWilson, and bishqqq.

 

If I misconstrued someone's post or missed someone, I apologize.

[Guest boatboatboat]

Hope you stop in to tgf as time allows

[Fazzer]

Bob has done a great service to the industry over the years. 

[fifty cint]

Bob has done a great service to the industry over the years. 

THIS

[KingRevolver]

Costa Ricans are so easy to tilt. Ridiculous that you can't post there, Bobby.

[groovinmahoovin]

Cooler heads have finally prevailed and the ban was lifted.

[FISHHEAD]

....and BBB remains banned????????

[Bucky]

Ok, so how does one get the picks of all these touts in order to accurately track them?  

[FISHHEAD]

LOL@Bucky

[Bucky]

Do you have to buy them all? How do you track the entire body of work at a price that is possible? Isn't that the catch 22 of touts - there is absolutely no way to believe what the tout says and any and all trackers do not have all the picks at the real time and price?

[KingRevolver]

Cooler heads have finally prevailed and the ban was lifted.

Good to hear.

[Always Call Heads]

Do you have to buy them all? How do you track the entire body of work at a price that is possible? Isn't that the catch 22 of touts - there is absolutely no way to believe what the tout says and any and all trackers do not have all the picks at the real time and price?

I believe Pregame wanted him to track them so he got access to the services and grades based on the line released versus the line availble. The others also gave him a sub.

[Guest pocketrockets]

Costa Ricans are so easy to tilt. Ridiculous that you can't post there, Bobby.

 

Fuck u baldy!

[groovinmahoovin]

Do you have to buy them all? How do you track the entire body of work at a price that is possible? Isn't that the catch 22 of touts - there is absolutely no way to believe what the tout says and any and all trackers do not have all the picks at the real time and price?

Pretty much that.  The only service where I'm aware Bob currently has access to the live plays are Fezzik's BLAP, and even that isn't 100% verifiable as a widely available record because 1) Fezzik includes things like props where there's no line history.  There have been times I had prop screens open at the Greek, 5D etc when Fezzik happened to post a prop a few minutes later, and the line was already stale from my unrefreshed screen, like Greek had -130, 5D had -125, and Fezzik released -115.  And 2) Pregame's grading standards allow Fezzik to steam chase from square books where an actual customer regularly picking off stale lines from William Hill and similar would probably see himself booted.  I've seen him post lines from "Pinny" when Pinny actually moved 7 minutes earlier. 

 

I'm not sure if Bob is verifying the lines to be widely available as in 20 months of tracking I haven't noticed him questioning any lines.  All that having been said, the props are only a small percentage of plays and the steam chases only seem to be blatantly bad once in a while, so I would suspect Bob's overall tracking of Fezzik is reasonably close to a true WA record.  It's not as bad as VegasInsider where they're allowed to use sportsbooks that are closed for the night and such; Pregame used to do that but knocked it off after the Deadspin article. 

 

Bob also tracks the SportsMemo touts based on their past-posted recaps and in that instance, there's no way to verify the lines either as the plays aren't timestamped, so the tracking there should basically be considered a "best case scenario" for the touts. However my guess is that the SportsMemo lines are probably fairly reasonable because I looked at the last 10 or so Teddy Covers plays and only 4 beat the closing line vs 4 that lost to the close and 2 that closed at the same line.