MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I was there the day a pro hit 100K dealt royal on the quarter 100-play....................I was also there the day RMI hit a 40K dealt royal on the dime 100-play. Think RMI hit two nickel dealt royals for 20k each, and one 40k dealt on the dime, all three just months apart. , Yes, you can luckbox into a big win off of that play alone. There's no doubt about that. But there will be times where you will go on massive losing streaks on that play for months and perhaps years on end. That was the point of the sim. That's pretty evident when you look at the distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcrowe4444 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 damn nice hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yes, you can luckbox into a big win off of that play alone. There's no doubt about that. But there will be times where you will go on massive losing streaks on that play for months and perhaps years on end. That was the point of the sim. That's pretty evident when you look at the distribution.SO WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Its a stinking 2-8 hour play for professionals, depending on how they want to attack,........ on A MINOR PLAY!! JFCJFC Again, variance is a good friend of the professional VP player, in the fact it keeps many, many, many from playing................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 SO WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Its a stinking 2-8 hour play for professionals, depending on how they want to attack,........ on A MINOR PLAY!! JFCJFC Again, variance is a good friend of the professional VP player, in the fact it keeps many, many, many from playing................................. Again, you said that didn't happen with regularity. Do I need to find your quote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I was there the day a pro hit 100K dealt royal on the quarter 100-play....................I was also there the day RMI hit a 40K dealt royal on the dime 100-play. Think RMI hit two nickel dealt royals for 20k each, and one 40k dealt on the dime, all three just months apart. , That doesn't matter at all here. Simply put your (sic) numbers will not outrun normal variances. I had you @ 0.0043/100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 FH, what's more likely on a play like this... someone being dealt a royal flush or someone losing $10k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Again, you said that didn't happen with regularity. Do I need to find your quote?It doesn't in the grand scheme of things, JFC.................what, it happens 65% of the time in your fabulous SIM??.........big hairy deal .,,,,,,,,,,,and that didn't include the card, mailers, and other incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 It doesn't in the grand scheme of things, JFC.................what, it happens 65% of the time in your fabulous SIM??.........big hairy deal .,,,,,,,,,,,and that didn't include the card, mailers, and other incentives. Of course, it includes the card and mailers. Are you thick? I used the $500 return YOU PROVIDED on the play. That included the card freeplay and the mailer freeplays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 FH, what's more likely on a play like this... someone being dealt a royal flush or someone losing $10k? Over time, being dealt a royal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Some good back and forth here men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Why are so worried and entrenched in such a MINOR play as I used an example??????? To show your fabulous SIM skills??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Odom Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Fish used to be part of a team (may still be) they would 'clock' banks of Machines Then they would attack when ready to pay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Over time, being dealt a royal. Over how much time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Some good back and forth here men The thing here is this is a math problem. It's not a debate. But shithead can't do math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Over how much time?WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Why are so worried and entrenched in such a MINOR play as I used an example??????? To show your fabulous SIM skills??? I'm just using your example to make my points. On a play that was so good it isn't offered anymore (but a MINOR play obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MATTER??????? What size bankroll would be required to have a 1% risk of ruin playing only this mailer play over time at $25/hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 SO WHAT!?!?!?!?!?! Its a stinking 2-8 hour play for professionals, depending on how they want to attack,........ on A MINOR PLAY!! JFCJFC Again, variance is a good friend of the professional VP player, in the fact it keeps many, many, many from playing................................. i don't understand why you think variance is a good friend. the lower the ROI, the more likelihood of you experiencing extremely long droughts of non-profitability; especially when it comes to how tied the "success" is to the pay scales slanted towards the top paying hands with long long odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Why are so worried and entrenched in such a MINOR play as I used an example??????? To show your fabulous SIM skills???HE IS AN INNOVATOR YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!! YOU HAVE NEVER INNOVATED ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU CANT CODE STUFF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 What size bankroll would be required to have a 1% risk of ruin playing only this mailer play over time at $25/hand? I have a bookshelf full of VP books , all about risk of ruin, blah, blah, blah, blah...................its unconcerning unless one is on a MASSIVE PLAY Like any pro is worried about risk of ruin on this play............LOLOLOL................I'm guessing most VP pros have a significant larger BR than you MONKEY, given your statements in forumville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 i don't understand why you think variance is a good friend. the lower the ROI, the more likelihood of you experiencing extremely long droughts of non-profitability; especially when it comes to how tied the "success" is to the pay scales slanted towards the top paying hands with long long odds.I think he said the variance keeps alot of people out of the game and keeps it profitable for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 i don't understand why you think variance is a good friend. the lower the ROI, the more likelihood of you experiencing extremely long droughts of non-profitability; especially when it comes to how tied the "success" is to the pay scales slanted towards the top paying hands with long long odds. It technically is, YES...............I like it because it keeps fleas from playing many attractive games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 HE IS AN INNOVATOR YOU SON OF A BITCH!!!! YOU HAVE NEVER INNOVATED ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU CANT CODE STUFF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I have a bookshelf full of VP books , all about risk of ruin, blah, blah, blah, blah...................its unconcerning unless one is on a MASSIVE PLAY Like any pro is worried about risk of ruin on this play............LOLOLOL................I'm guessing most VP pros have a significant larger BR than you MONKEY, given your statements in forumville. You don't know the answer? You have VP books that mention it but you've never actually bothered to know what it is? Or you're just incapable of doing the math? What happens on $500/hand? You think millions of dollars in variance isn't possible? What about recommending bankroll size to the people you're "mentoring" and trying to convince them that VP is easy money? What size BR do they need for certain games and at what denom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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