joeybagadonuts Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Had this discussion out at dinner last night with a guy who thinks it’s the right thing to do... InsanityAbsolutely idiotic no matter your stance on guns. Some old 70 year old hag w a pistol and 3 hours of fun training vs some kid w an AK should go well. Or when a kid accidentally gets shot by some overzealous teacher. Or a kid steals the teachers gun Etc etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Arming teachers is not in any way shape or form a reasonable fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Absolutely idiotic no matter your stance on guns. Some old 70 year old hag w a pistol and 3 hours of fun training vs some kid w an AK should go well. Or when a kid accidentally gets shot by some overzealous teacher. Or a kid steals the teachers gun Etc etc etcOr the cops show up and think an armed teacher is one of the shooters and the cops kill the teacher. Yeah, cops would never do that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Having been a teacher in Los Angeles in my 20s, I can only say that they would have had to double my salary to expect me to show up armed. Not saying it's a horrible idea. But as being ex-military and a qualified teacher, it's just too big of a responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 No one is suggesting forcing teachers to carry guns, it would be voluntary, if you have a big school with a 100 teachers, perhaps 5 or 8 of them might choose to be armed, maybe more, maybe less. It's not going to prevent a shooting either, but it might help prevent a shooter from going from 10 victims to 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Had this discussion out at dinner last night with a guy who thinks it’s the right thing to do... Insanity I'm shocked you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookbraker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Absolutely idiotic no matter your stance on guns. Some old 70 year old hag w a pistol and 3 hours of fun training vs some kid w an AK should go well. Or when a kid accidentally gets shot by some overzealous teacher. Or a kid steals the teachers gun Etc etc etc bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I'm shocked you don't.Even Teddy unclogs the shit in his head once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Teachers are still sleeping with students. No way are they capable of protecting other kids with a firearm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Police didn't enter Columbine for 5 hours. Which makes all of MF repeated using that example nonsense.You think it takes 5 hours to kill 13 people with shotguns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Arming teachers is not in any way shape or form a reasonable fix.Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Do the Libs even have a solution? Surely your answer can’t be taking away guns. Killer’s love schools. Gun free zones are an open invitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Arming teachers is not in any way shape or form a reasonable fix.95% of teachers are libs. No way they carry. Arm the Vets as they will do it for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Anyone that thinks there's a simple answer to this is half retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijoe066 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just saw this on the news. Teacher in Colorado can carry a gun and he carries it in his boot but it isn't loaded. He might as well carry a water gun. WTF!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Anyone that thinks there's a simple answer to this is a full blown retard. Fixed it up for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 95% of teachers are libs. No way they carry. Arm the Vets as they will do it for free. 100,000 public schools in USA. Good luck. Not a chance in hell my kids would go somewhere where that would take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 100,000 public schools in USA. Good luck. Not a chance in hell my kids would go somewhere where that would take place. Where what would take place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Where what would take place? Where they would have teachers or ex-military walking around armed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Where they would have teachers or ex-military walking around armed. Teachers walking around armed is stupid. Ex-military are already on guard at many schools. Many schools have SRO's. School Resource Officers. These are many times police officers or part of a county sheriff's department. Many are vets who went into law enforcement when they got out. So yeah. That aspect is already common in public schools. Especially in the low-socio economic areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike499 Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 If I was this guy I'd be looking at spending my retirement in a different country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDTrains Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Several teachers put themselves between the shooter and students, and died, the difference is the teachers cared about their kids, the cop obviously didn't. Yes Kinger, an armed teacher, who is in the middle of the fray, will fight back.If a gunman can walk into a military base like Fort Hood with 100% of the populace 'highly trained" in firearms use, and still murder 13 people with a pistol, do you honestly think that 20% of teachers having a gun is going to stop the next killer who may have an AR-15? And what if the armed teacher is black. How is the arriving SWAT team going to react to seeing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Looks like 3 other deputies also did nothing while the shooting was happening. Good grief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDTrains Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Absolutely terrible. Need to be at least fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 If a gunman can walk into a military base like Fort Hood with 100% of the populace 'highly trained" in firearms use, and still murder 13 people with a pistol, do you honestly think that 20% of teachers having a gun is going to stop the next killer who may have an AR-15? And what if the armed teacher is black. How is the arriving SWAT team going to react to seeing that?It's my understanding that despite Ft Hood taking place on a military base, no one near Hassan was armed, just people at the front gate along with base security, etc. Let me make my viewpoint clear, arming teachers is not the solution, however it "might" help or possibly deter another attacker. There are many reasons for what happened, the obvious ones...inaction by police/fbi, school admin, etc, along with a whole host of other causes, including violent images/games, social media, school culture in america today(that seems to create very resentful students), possible bullying, failure of the mental health system...and...drumroll...possibly it's too easy for crazy people to buy guns. Basically ignoring every possible cause except guns is insane, if your goal is really to prevent future attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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