MonkeyF0cker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Gotcha. It WAS the girl comment. I'll lay off. Must be bed time for the working stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Not really. If you're actually trying to argue that the market isn't concerned about tariffs and that the market would be indifferent to them, you're not going to win.Most companies are probably opposed to them, whether the "market" is, is a matter of opinion, I know several days ago, actually from last week on when the talk about Cohn leaving started to pick up, the "experts" said that if Cohn left, "the market would respond very, very badly". Well, that didn't happen, did it? So the experts who follow the market closer than anyone, made a forecast a few days out and they were wrong, no one knows what's going to happen even 1 day out, let alone a week, month or year. By the way, I find Fox business to be far superior to CNBC when it comes to overall business/stock programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Most companies are probably opposed to them, whether the "market" is, is a matter of opinion, I know several days ago, actually from last week on when the talk about Cohn leaving started to pick up, the "experts" said that if Cohn left, "the market would respond very, very badly". Well, that didn't happen, did it? So the experts who follow the market closer than anyone, made a forecast a few days out and they were wrong, no one knows what's going to happen even 1 day out, let alone a week, month or year. By the way, I find Fox business to be far superior to CNBC when it comes to overall business/stock programming. Not a fan of Fox Business. Not enough on-air options talk from what I've seen. And we always had CNBC on when I worked in the industry. So, I'm used to it. The reason everyone was scared to see Cohn go was because he was one of the voices against tariffs and that he would help prevent a trade war. But the exemptions for Canada and Mexico muted those fears quite a bit after he resigned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Not a fan of Fox Business. Not enough on-air options talk from what I've seen. And we always had CNBC on when I worked in the industry. So, I'm used to it. The reason everyone was scared to see Cohn go was because he was one of the voices against tariffs and that he would help prevent a trade war. But the exemptions for Canada and Mexico muted those fears quite a bit after he resigned.Cant watch CNBC anymore, cramers a clown, a couple others are way too political, cant stand the najerians. CNBC will keep mentioning the DOW, but without any context, fox will mention it and then flash the screen with every dow stock in red or green, so you can really see what's leading or lagging. Give them a try, you watch it for a week and you wont go back. Trump is just starting with these tariffs by the way, he's mentioned many times that reciprocal tariffs are coming, where he's gonna target one country at a time that's blocking our products, he'll say so and so, your at 15% and we're at 2, you either go to 2 or we're going to 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Cant watch CNBC anymore, cramers a clown, a couple others are way too political, cant stand the najerians. CNBC will keep mentioning the DOW, but without any context, fox will mention it and then flash the screen with every dow stock in red or green, so you can really see what's leading or lagging. Give them a try, you watch it for a week and you wont go back. Trump is just starting with these tariffs by the way, he's mentioned many times that reciprocal tariffs are coming, where he's gonna target one country at a time that's blocking our products, he'll say so and so, your at 15% and we're at 2, you either go to 2 or we're going to 15. I've watched it before. I have any individual stocks or commodities that I'm watching up on my screen. So, I don't usually care if they show the Dow stocks or not. CNBC shows a big board with the Dow 30 ordered by leaders/laggards throughout the day. Usually, I'm not concerned about most of the individual Dow stocks anyway though. We'll see what happens. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail with tariffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I hate those clowns on Cnbc that do the noon show where they'll pick their stocks, they're about as accurate as flipping a coin but when they're wrong they'll say "2 days ago i know I said i was buying XYZ, I did but late in the day unwound that position before it fell"...lying bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I hate those clowns on Cnbc that do the noon show where they'll pick their stocks, they're about as accurate as flipping a coin but when they're wrong they'll say "2 days ago i know I said i was buying XYZ, I did but late in the day unwound that position before it fell"...lying bastards. You mean Fast Money Halftime? There's a guy on that show named Josh Brown that's pretty sharp actually. The rest are pretty worthless for advice. Sometimes, they might just be trying to counter someone's point though. I like discussions like that though because you can see where some of their logic fails. I don't care what their records are. I'd never invest in something just because some guy on TV recommended it. Always gotta do your own due diligence. Fast Money after Closing Bell is always a must watch. Some decent technical analysis and more options talk. They've been devoting a lot of time to cryptos lately as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Not a fan of Fox Business. Not enough on-air options talk from what I've seen. And we always had CNBC on when I worked in the industry. So, I'm used to it. The reason everyone was scared to see Cohn go was because he was one of the voices against tariffs and that he would help prevent a trade war. But the exemptions for Canada and Mexico muted those fears quite a bit after he resigned. I expect cooler heads to ultimately prevail, with maybe slight changes here and there. I think Trump mainly wants to show that he's taking action, and if so, that could mean that he's willing to take less than stated. Either way, most changes need to be incremental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 GOP may seek to block these tariffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 GOP may seek to block these tariffs. They cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Well, two days now since that jew Cohn quit, the market couldn't have cared less, typical of goldman sachs guys to overrate themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 I've watched it before. I have any individual stocks or commodities that I'm watching up on my screen. So, I don't usually care if they show the Dow stocks or not. CNBC shows a big board with the Dow 30 ordered by leaders/laggards throughout the day. Usually, I'm not concerned about most of the individual Dow stocks anyway though. We'll see what happens. Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail with tariffs.usually have bloomberg on, better than others, have decent eye candy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 They cant They're talking about a Bill to try doing so. But....I kinda think it's just talk, as they play Good Cop, Bad Cop really well, yet still do the same stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 They're talking about a Bill to try doing so. But....I kinda think it's just talk, as they play Good Cop, Bad Cop really well, yet still do the same stuff..trump enacted them using his authority under section 632, using national security as the reason, Congress should just do their job and deal with all the other shit they've ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 They're talking about a Bill to try doing so. But....I kinda think it's just talk, as they play Good Cop, Bad Cop really well, yet still do the same stuff..The bill would have to be signed by Trump, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 The bill would have to be signed by Trump, no? Well yeah, unless a 2/3rd override. Dems would happily go along to spite Trump, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Well yeah, unless a 2/3rd override. Dems would happily go along to spite Trump, no?It's Possible but a veto override hasn't happened in 20 years so not likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Are you sure? I thought there have been several, even lately. Or maybe I am mistaken by Presidents signing when there are threats of veto due to Bills passing with 'veto proof' super majorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Well yeah, unless a 2/3rd override. Dems would happily go along to spite Trump, no?Last week when Trump announced the tariffs there was a great outcry from some, saying that the countries most hurt would be Canada, mexico, etc, and trump should instead target china...well, that's pretty much what he did(canada and mexico are not part of the tariffs), now some of them are still whining, they just hate Trump. Congress can not block trumps tariffs, they could change the law that allows him to do it, and that will never happen, no matter if trump, Obama, or anyone else is president. What's happening is a few senators(like Flake) are seeking attention, like they always do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Gotcha. I thought they could invoke measures on each action if worded properly. But, you're right. Stripping that broad ability from a President is too ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity .tell that to college football and basketball players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 This is not going to be good. I hope the higher prices affect Trumptards the most. They'll go to their death bed saying how great Trump is as they pay $300 for a Lynyrd Skynyrd sleeveless shirt. No class, these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Cohn resigns. Futures tanking.Looks like the market was able to digest Cohns departure, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 Looks like the market was able to digest Cohns departure, huh? Jobs report came out today if you weren't aware and the tariffs are much tamer than initially feared. Futures didn't tank on news of his departure for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted March 10, 2018 Report Share Posted March 10, 2018 How soon will these even be implemented? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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