Sol Aristatel Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 BAUS (Past President, Merry Men Foundation of North America) Even BAUS is bailing on Team -FH-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm guessing you'd cheat even at $20 a game? I can't believe it's not butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Marty Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Even BAUS is bailing on Team -FH-? FH's chili/garlic farts made Board meetings impossible. Anyone who's been trapped in his vehicle can verify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Even BAUS is bailing on Team -FH-?I sit on too many boards as it is. Needed to turn it over to poster Ronald. BAUS (Chairman, Corbin Electric) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 If it's like a $1000, sure.....use a bot or whatever. But a simple $20 game? Man...this thread went from finding folks to play and posting about our experiences to quite the argument about Bots and AI. Ha. I think the missing point is that since we aren't all in the 1% in the top players in the world, these computers nowadays will wreck all of us. And even if someone doesn't quite have the software on their phone/computer, it doesn't meant they cannot have it the other place and manually input each move in a game to determine what they're recommended to do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Also....would love to play Reno Marty in a 30min game sometime if he ever has the time (I know time is $$$ for ultra sharp/busy folks) In a 10/5/3min game, you'd easily crush me on the first mistake, but I've been doing well in 30min games and could at least give you a game (I think). Or if not, would be a good learning experience for sure. Ha--I'm just trying to see if all this talk has you wanting to play us 'regular folk.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Reno Marty only plays 30-second games. Guy wins in seven moves or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Marty Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I play mostly 1min or 3min. No patience for 30min games. But when KR hosts a live tournament in Vegas I'll be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Also....would love to play Reno Marty in a 30min game sometime if he ever has the time (I know time is $$$ for ultra sharp/busy folks) In a 10/5/3min game, you'd easily crush me on the first mistake, but I've been doing well in 30min games and could at least give you a game (I think). Or if not, would be a good learning experience for sure. Ha--I'm just trying to see if all this talk has you wanting to play us 'regular folk.'Let’s make it happen. BAUS (Vice President, TGF Chess Club) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I play mostly 1min or 3min. No patience for 30min games. But when KR hosts a live tournament in Vegas I'll be there. That would be a good time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm guessing you'd cheat even at $20 a game?I don't cheat. You definitely sound like EZ Street. What's the point of a $20 game? Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted May 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I don't cheat. You definitely sound like EZ Street. What's the point of a $20 game? Pass. Oh come on... you had fun with us playing poker for $25. Surely just a fun, but competitive game would get you going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm not sure what the point of challenging me to a game of chess has to do with the conversation. If Reno were to actually win the game, does it make his ignorance of AI bots and computer hardware go away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm not sure what the point of challenging me to a game of chess has to do with the conversation. If Reno were to actually win the game, does it make his ignorance of AI bots and computer hardware go away?Not much of a sport this guy... BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Marty Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm not sure what the point of challenging me to a game of chess has to do with the conversation. If Reno were to actually win the game, does it make his ignorance of AI bots and computer hardware go away? You're still wrong. You're just hiding behind my post saying "99%+" not being identical to 100% (how lame, petty and pathetic), and arguing semantics on what AI is. This all started when you questioned the advantage of using a chess bot. Everyone in the thread who knows anything about chess knows that a chess bot even from the early 1990s will destroy any amateur player, and any bot from the 2000s will destroy the world champion. Oh, but you're right, there's a chance the bot is not any good! It might actually be a checkers bot. Yeah, congrats, you're right again. Except it would take Slim or whoever else 2 minutes to figure that out by first playing against it. So in this thread we learned you would not hesitate to cheat to make a buck. That you think cheating is the same as studying, practicing, working out, or collecting data and building a model to beat sports betting. Kind of like card counting is the same as pulling back your chips after the dealer shows an ace. Nice. You sound like a great guy without any personality disorders whatsoever. Anyways, knowing you, you'll insist on having the last word, just like women do. Go ahead, it's yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Monkey took a good beating in this one. That's OK, you can come back strong tomorrow, sport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'll just recap what Reno Marty (who says he knows nothing about computers) has taught me (someone who has coded bots) about computer bots in this thread:1. Deep Blue was not an AI supercomputer. All computer scientists on the planet are incorrect in calling it artificial intelligence.2. The 10th best publicly available chess bot would "destroy the human world champion" 99%+ of the time. Every time.3. When someone says "99%+" they mean 1 in 1 billion. Not 1 in 100. Or 1 in 200. Or 1 in 5000. 1 in 1 billion. Duh. 4. No human has ever beaten a chess bot in the last 15 years. Guaranteed!5. AI has not been bottlenecked by computer hardware since its inception.6. Because the hardware bottleneck has improved in supercomputers, software that was designed for less sophisticated hardware should be equal to AlphaZero.7. Software run on modern supercomputers can be run on your phone and is relevant to off-the-shelf software conversations.8. When you're talking about a chess match between a bot and "the human world champion", you mean ONLY 3 or 5 minute timed games.9. I'd rather be the Cory to your EZ Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viejo Dinosaur Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Sitting here in the Helsinki lounge playing chess....on my way to Thailand....7 hour layover.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Monkey got destroyed in here And is still arguing stupid semantics. Yep. Insufferable prick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealSlimShady Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Sitting here in the Helsinki lounge playing chess....on my way to Thailand....7 hour layover.... Back to Thailand to hang out with your Russian buddies?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viejo Dinosaur Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Back to Thailand to hang out with your Russian buddies?? I mention your name and I get respect....only way I survive.... I tell them Slim Shady from Vegas Triyad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viejo Dinosaur Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 See you at the end of August Slim.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbabble Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Monkey, Could you give us a summary of what your main points are? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted May 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 People haven't been trying to play games since there's been such a debate happening in here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted May 19, 2018 Report Share Posted May 19, 2018 People haven't been trying to play games since there's been such a debate happening in here! I’m traveling today, but upon reaching my destination , i’m guessing I will be pooped in the room and will be in prime form to lose at even a faster rate of speed than normal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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