Machiavelli Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Between this and the first week or two in July, this all a Suns fan has to look forward to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 suns heavy favorite to win championship..... rookie tournament camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Any white guys going top 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump City Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Any white guys going top 10?Well you could make the argument that the best player in the draft is white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I am hoping Ayton/Doncic isn't a lesser Oden/Durant or Bowie/Jordan thing that gets looked back on with regret. Also....thinking Sac is serious about Michael Porter jr with the 2nd pick. AytonMPJDoncicBagleyJJJ Look to be my top 5 picks right now if I had to guess. Bagley's offensive game should be the best of the bigs and JJJ's off/def combo may even exceed Ayton's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 Ayton and Bagley signed with Puma. Wow. Good for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Hopefully the Dwight deal helps more deals start happening here soon. Would like a couple of developments to happen today and then have lots go on tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump City Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I am hoping Ayton/Doncic isn't a lesser Oden/Durant or Bowie/Jordan thing that gets looked back on with regret. Also....thinking Sac is serious about Michael Porter jr with the 2nd pick. AytonMPJDoncicBagleyJJJ Look to be my top 5 picks right now if I had to guess. Bagley's offensive game should be the best of the bigs and JJJ's off/def combo may even exceed Ayton's.There's no chance porter goes 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Bagley will go #2 to Sac for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Ayton and Bagley signed with Puma. Wow. Good for them.I believe both of clients of Jay Z’s maangement company and Jay was recently named creative director of puma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangover Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Well you could make the argument that the best player in the draft is white.This argument will fall apart when put on the court with nba level athletes and coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 This argument will fall apart when put on the court with nba level athletes and coaching At worst, it seems like Doncic is a Kukoc or better Turkoglu--which were solid players. Just not worthy of all the hype and a top draft slot. But if he's better or much better, then it'll go a long way to shedding the Euro stigma that some of the top 10 busts helped create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump City Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 At worst, it seems like Doncic is a Kukoc or better Turkoglu--which were solid players. Just not worthy of all the hype and a top draft slot. But if he's better or much better, then it'll go a long way to shedding the Euro stigma that some of the top 10 busts helped create.Kukoc was 6'11 and a PF. Doncic is a 6'6 SG or SF. Turkoglu the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Kukoc was 6'11 and a PF. Doncic is a 6'6 SG or SF. Turkoglu the same. Kukoc was mainly a SF and did a lot of playmaking from the wing. Doncic may be a better playmaker from the wing but my point stands. It seems like that's his 'worst' of outcomes other than true bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump City Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Kukoc was mainly a SF and did a lot of playmaking from the wing. Doncic may be a better playmaker from the wing but my point stands. It seems like that's his 'worst' of outcomes other than true bust.Kukoc played small forward? That's odd... he played there occassionally but he was more of a back up 4 or even 5 than he was a 3. Doncic a must h different player. Doncic floor is certainly not a player as good as kukoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Kukoc played small forward? That's odd... he played there occassionally but he was more of a back up 4 or even 5 than he was a 3. Doncic a must h different player. I had to check basketball reference to make sure I was correct and they listed him as SF for the majority of his career. I followed that Bulls team like all of America but 3 or 4 are sometimes interchangeable and when he'd play on the court with Pippen, I guess you can say he's a 4 then. But you have to admit that Kukoc had some good handles and could pass a bit. Doncic supposed to be better there but in saying he's Kukoc like at worst, that doesn't seem far fetched. I also thought Doncic was 6'8 due to YouTube vids but Wiki has him listed at 6'6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I believe both of clients of Jay Z’s maangement company and Jay was recently named creative director of puma.Also, Ayton from the Bahamas, and Puma is big in that area down there... Works out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/06/20/deandre-ayton-is-already-signing-phoenix-suns-jerseys-photo Ayton already singing Suns jerseys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/06/20/deandre-ayton-is-already-signing-phoenix-suns-jerseys-photo Ayton already singing Suns jerseys? Ha. Good find. I like his confidence. Dude said after his workout that he was going number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump City Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Ayton = Anthony Bennet 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Ayton = Anthony Bennet 2.0LOL Sure hope not. But with the Suns' luck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Ayton = Anthony Bennet 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 This argument will fall apart when put on the court with nba level athletes and coaching EuroLeague is good. Doncic has faced much better competition than Ayton playing against the shit Pac 12 and bums half his size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 EuroLeague is good. Doncic has faced much better competition than Ayton playing against the shit Pac 12 and bums half his size. Yeah but Ayton is going 1 due to being a Big with projectability. So it's about perceived upside as a dominant big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Yeah but Ayton is going 1 due to being a Big with projectability. So it's about perceived upside as a dominant big. Doncic has more upside. Who wants a big unless it's a guy who does everything like Anthony Davis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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