MonkeyF0cker Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 I haven't placed one bet or watched one minute of the World Cup. And I'm perfectly fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 There is nothing worse than laying -0.5 and having the other team score first 0.0% chance to come from behind and win your bet I'd rather beat my cok with an axe handle than bet this shit on a daily basis good thing world cup is only once every four years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted June 19, 2018 Report Share Posted June 19, 2018 There is no way that this is true. Each team probably has ~15. yeah it looks like 288 which is a tad bit higher than 15 shocking since balco said he was such an expert on soccer https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/28/mls-once-again-most-diverse-league-north-america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Sophisticated countries prefer more complex games that aren't so elementary and dumb. Like football, basketball, and baseball.So USA is the only sophisticated country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 So USA is the only sophisticated country? The Unites States of America. King of sophistication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 its a sport that doesn't require you to have money to play. Its the ultimate lottery ticket to riches in these poor countries if you are good.Ahh not here!!! I fork 17k a year for both of my kids. That includes club fees, travel, tournaments, and private training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 There is no way that this is true. Each team probably has ~15.Yea in the academy, but not senior team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Ahh not here!!! I fork 17k a year for both of my kids. That includes club fees, travel, tournaments, and private training. i have a feeling they could learn how to run back and forth without spending all that money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 that's like saying with more trainers the usa could better compete with the kenyans in marathon runningYou missed the point of the need of better trainers from outside this country that can teach the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 i have a feeling they could learn how to run back and forth without spending all that moneyYep if they want rec soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 It's simple. The best athletes in the US don't play soccer. They play football, basketball, and baseball. That may change in the near future. But that's the main reason the US has been behind other top countries in the worlds most boring game. Futbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyL Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Yea in the academy, but not senior team.So you seriously think that there are 15 total players born in the US actively playing across the 23 MLS teams right now? That couldn’t be more wrong, and no clue where you’re getting it from. What country do you think supplies the majority of the players in MLS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 You missed the point of the need of better trainers from outside this country that can teach the sport. the only 2 things that matter to the quality of athletes you are going to get are 1) prize money/salaries/endorsements2) athletic ability you could have the best nfl trainers in ethiopia and they still aren't gonna get any linemen... don't need any trainers and you have tons of elite-level marathoners #1 is the only reason people outside the usa became terrific golfers... tiger made the prize money go through the roof so there was incentive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 the only 2 things that matter to the quality of athletes you are going to get are 1) prize money/salaries/endorsements2) athletic ability you could have the best nfl trainers in ethiopia and they still aren't gonna get any linemen... don't need any trainers and you have tons of elite-level marathoners #1 is the only reason people outside the usa became terrific golfers... tiger made the prize money go through the roof so there was incentiveNone of this applies to soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 None of this applies to soccer. bullshit it doesn't... are you telling me that senegal is in the world cup because they have such great trainers there? has nothing to do with skinny black guys that can run around, they would be just as successful with 300 pound white guys i'm sure have mls salaries of $20 million and you'll get a lot of better soccer players in the usa, and they wouldn't miss another world cup ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 So you seriously think that there are 15 total players born in the US actively playing across the 23 MLS teams right now? That couldn’t be more wrong, and no clue where you’re getting it from. What country do you think supplies the majority of the players in MLS?Yes I stand corrected as it’s roughly about 95 American born players currently, but it’s declining rapidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Yes I stand corrected as it’s roughly about 95 American born players currently, but it’s declining rapidly. it's not 95 it's 288! i posted the link earlier but here it is again https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/28/mls-once-again-most-diverse-league-north-america Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyL Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 bullshit it doesn't... are you telling me that senegal is in the world cup because they have such great trainers there? has nothing to do with skinny black guys that can run around, they would be just as successful with 300 pound white guys i'm sure have mls salaries of $20 million and you'll get a lot of better soccer players in the usa, and they wouldn't miss another world cup everI agree with a lot of that, though it goes deeper than even just the $. It’s having kids growing up eating and breathing the sport, dreaming of making it big, playing every minute of their free time, etc. Doesn’t change overnight, but we are further along than many think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 bullshit it doesn't... are you telling me that senegal is in the world cup because they have such great trainers there? has nothing to do with skinny black guys that can run around, they would be just as successful with 300 pound white guys i'm sure have mls salaries of $20 million and you'll get a lot of better soccer players in the usa, and they wouldn't miss another world cup everExactly what I am fucking tell you!USA missed WC because of bad decisions not to play the youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyL Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Yes I stand corrected as it’s roughly about 95 American born players currently, but it’s declining rapidly.Where are you getting this? There is no way that each MLS team has about 4 US born guys on the roster, or that about 20% of the league is US born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 I agree with a lot of that, though it goes deeper than even just the $. It’s having kids growing up eating and breathing the sport, dreaming of making it big, playing every minute of their free time, etc. Doesn’t change overnight, but we are further along than many think. oh absolutely and that's what the tiger effect did for golf... without any money there wouldn't be a lot of kids dreaming of that ask kids in the ghetto of milwaukee what they want to be, and it will be either a rapper or in the nba... i imagine in other countries it's soccer player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Superior athletes couldn’t compete at the senior level without superior training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Where are you getting this? There is no way that each MLS team has about 4 US born guys on the roster, or that about 20% of the league is US born.What do you come up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Exactly what I am fucking tell you!USA missed WC because of bad decisions not to play the youth.Bad coach equals bad coaching at every level across America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyL Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 What do you come up with?The link posted in this thread had it at around 50%. Scanning some rosters quick, that looks right. Do you have a link, or did you make up the number 95? Because I can guarantee it’s higher than 95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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