Why was Seth Rich murdered if Pizzagate isn't real?

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQVRRSHH7LE

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

I've heard Trump talking about this recently saying the deep state involvement in human trafficking is real and that he is cleaning house. I do wonder if he will keep to his word.

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxBKp0HI1b4

[Machiavelli]

Be careful...

 

HRC served under BHO.... BHO is out of Chicago. 

 

You know who else is in Chicago??? That's right....your boy BC/TH.

 

They're gonna send him after you!

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

LOL 

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

Be careful...

 

HRC served under BHO.... BHO is out of Chicago. 

 

You know who else is in Chicago??? That's right....your boy BC/TH.

 

They're gonna send him after you!

 

 

BTW

 

the person you are referring blasted me like crazy the 1st time I posted about this here over a year ago

 

he is convinced he knows whats up, ill bump it

[Machiavelli]

Like I said before, I pulled back on looking into all of that stuff when it seemed apparent that they were just trying to funnel people into the alt-right. 

 

I understand the desire to question everything, though. 

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

I have a meeting via skype with Robert Steele former CIA agent among other very important people on July 2nd...

 

These credible folks have proof this is going on and are fighting to prove it despite the reigning corruption in the US law system... 

 

I am pretty much on board with them 100%

[milwaukee mike]

of course it's real

 

there are tapes online of john podesta swearing at little girls and making them call him daddy

 

chris cornell (soundgarden) and chester bennington (linkin park) ended up dead too... bennington was podesta's son

 

they rub it right in everyone's face, why in the world would linkin park be in Haiti with bill Clinton and convicted human traffickers?  and all the pedophile logos (triangle inside triangle)

 

 

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

yep Milky... its blatantly obvious when you look into EVERYTHING pizzagate and the coincidences just pile up... with the facts

[milwaukee mike]

yep Milky... its blatantly obvious when you look into EVERYTHING pizzagate and the coincidences just pile up... with the facts

 

either you're awake or asleep

 

95% of the us population is asleep and you probably can't wake up people on a forum, have to get right in their face with hard evidence until they pop out of their stupor

 

just think of how brainwashed all americans have been since birth, and it's always easier to trick people than convince them they've been tricked

 

3 buildings get hit by 2 planes and just disintegrate?  no problem!  a scrawny 100 lb guy goes into a school with 800 lbs of gear and no training, yet 100% kill rate and nobody follows standard protocol of giving people cpr?  no problem!  don't even need any evidence!

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

Couldnt have said it better, still, I try! 

[Hangover]

Pedos in power as old as time

[Balco]

The Clinton’s had many murdered.

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

The Clinton’s had many murdered.

 

[KingRevolver]

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

 

 

When the world awakens we will tell you we told you so bro

[evade]

When the world awakens we will tell you we told you so bro

 

Kinger is snapchatting 19 year olds who might be overgrown 15-16 year olds. You know his (bad) luck. TGF might have its own pizzagate. Now, if a couple of merry Non heterosexual humans get entangled too, it will be great.

[Guest ConspiracyMuncher]

Kinger is snapchatting 19 year olds who might be overgrown 15-16 year olds. You know his (bad) luck. TGF might have its own pizzagate. Now, if a couple of merry Non heterosexual humans get entangled too, it will be great.

 

I see this brewing and I like it!!! #KINGERGATE

[theguesser]

 

Were Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell Murdered to Cover Up a Pedophile Ring?

 

A fake news web site claimed the deceased singers from Linkin Park and Soundgarden were murdered because they were about to expose a list of pedophiles.

 

 

CLAIM

Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were murdered because they were about to reveal a ring of pedophiles.

 

RATING

 FALSE

 

ORIGIN

On 21 July 2017, the fake news web site YourNewsWire posted a story reporting that Linkin Park singer Chester Bennington, who passed away on 20 July 2017 in his Palos Verdes Estates home near Los Angeles, had been murdered in similar fashion to his friend, Soundgarden singer Chris Cornell, who died two months earlier.

Both Bennington’s and Cornell’s deaths have been ruled suicides by hanging by Los Angeles County and Wayne County medical examiners, respectively. Cornell died on 18 May 2017 in his hotel room after a concert in Detroit, while Bennington passed away at his Palos Verdes Estates home on 20 July 2017. The two men were friends — in fact, Bennington took his life on what would have been Cornell’s 53rd birthday. But rumors that their deaths were connected in any nefarious way are based on speculation and not evidence, and YourNewsWire’s headline thus falsely proclaims “Police: Chester Bennington Was Murdered.” 

Citing a “police source,” YourNewsWire asserted that authorities were investigating Bennington’s death as a homicide:

Detectives are looking into whether Chester Bennington was murdered, with the death scene later arranged to resemble a suicide. They have put a team of investigators in place and are refusing to rule out a criminal homicide charge.

“Murders are sometimes made to look like suicides. We think he was murdered, we just have to find out who was behind it,” said a police source.

It’s unclear what “detectives” YourNewsWire could possibly have obtained such a quote from. Palos Verdes Estates police have not commented on the case and have instead referred all inquiries to the coroner’s office. The police department for that small coastal community south of Los Angeles contracts with the much larger Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department to handle homicides, and the Sheriff’s Homicide Bureau told us they did not respond to Bennington’s death. The quote doesn’t appear in any other news report about the incident.

We have spoken to all the agencies that have jurisdiction over Bennington’s home and can confirm that, contrary to what YourNewsWire reported, law enforcement has not said Bennington was murdered.

The celebrity status of both men means relevant details about their deaths are publicly available. Cornell’s autopsy report has been uploaded online, and in that report, Wayne County assistant medical examiner Dr. Theodore Brown notes that Cornell’s bodyguard discovered him in the bathroom of his Detroit hotel room with an exercise band around his neck. Ligature marks were found around Cornell’s neck, and the cause of death was determined to be suicide by hanging.

The Los Angeles County Coroners told us the official cause of Bennington’s death was also a suicide by hanging and that an autopsy report would be forthcoming at the end of July 2017.

YourNewsWire also quoted Randy Cody, a person they described as an “investigator”:

Detroit police wrapped up their investigations quickly and the Wayne County Medical Examiner’s Office ruled the death a suicide, but investigators are claiming that unexplained gaps in the official timeline of Cornell’s final moments and suspicious inconsistencies in the records suggest that Cornell’s death was not suicide at all, but a premeditated homicide and cover up.

Investigator Randy Cody is among those questioning the suicide ruling. He points to perceived timeline gaps, forensic questions and what he says are two signs that Cornell had a head wound that was not mentioned in autopsy reports.

Cody may be an amateur sleuth, but he is not a law enforcement investigator. He is a blogger who runs The Metal Den web site, where he occupies himself coming up with various theories to prove Cornell was murdered. He was interviewed for a Detroit News story about theories surrounding the singer’s death by fans unsatisfied with the suicide ruling, which is where YourNewsWire lifted this information from.

A piece of supposed evidence cited by Cody is a head wound he believes he saw in a YouTube video of Cornell’s last performance at Detroit’s Fox Theater on 17 May 2017 and an unverified recording of radio traffic in which a medic claimed to have seen a wound on the head of an unnamed victim. No mention was made of a head wound in the autopsy report, prompting accusations that the information was “suppressed.” However in the image from the concert it appears the “wound” is simply red stage light reflecting off the singer’s skin.

In a 22 May 2017 post, Cody claimed Cornell was murdered because he was about to expose pedophiles involved in PizzaGate, a debunked conspiracy theory holding that a child sex trafficking ring linked to Hillary Clinton was being run out of Comet Ping Pong, a Washington, D.C., pizzeria. No evidence was offered linking Bennington to the non-existent PizzaGate conspiracy other than a circumstantial reference to a revelation he made in a rock magazine interview that he had been molested when he was a child. PizzaGate has been debunked by none other than conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who was one of the key figures in originally spreading it. Jones apologized and retracted the claim after a man intent on “rescuing” children went to the pizzeria with a rifle in December 2016 and opened fire inside.

YourNewsWire is not a reliable source of information — they regularly post inaccurate articles and unfounded conspiracy theories. There is no evidence that Bennington or Cornell were murdered in an effort to cover up a debunked pedophile sex ring.

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[theguesser]

 

DNC Worker Seth Conrad Rich Gunned Down on the Way to Meet FBI

 

A conspiracy site latched on to the tragic murder of young DNC staffer Seth Rich to spread false information about his killing.

 

 

CLAIM

DNC staffer Seth Rich was gunned down to prevent him from meeting with the FBI over plans to testify against Hillary Clinton. See Example( s )

 

 

 

 

 

RATING

 FALSE

 

ORIGIN

On 10 July 2016, Democratic National Committee (DNC) staffer Seth Conrad Rich was shot and killed just after 4 AM in Washington, D.C. Rich’s tragic death was undoubtedly destined to feed a number of conspiracy theories due to his line of work and the proximity of the 2016 presidential election. Among those theories were myriad conflicting claims that Rich was covertly working to expose election fraud, collaborating with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on an unspecified investigation, or a recycled assertion that he was imminently to testify against Hillary Clinton when he was gunned down. (No ongoing court case we could locate would involve any such testimony from Rich.)

On 13 July 2016, the notoriously unreliable conspiracy-flogging outlet WhatDoesItMean.com hoovered up the fresh tragedy as part of what appeared to be a series of articles capitalizing on recent deaths to drive conspiracies about Hillary Clinton. Describing the 27-year-old Rich as a “top” DNC “official,” the site blared that he was bumped off by a Clinton “hit team”:

Assassination Of Top US Democratic Party Official Leads To FBI Capture Of Clinton “Hit Team”

A somber Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today says that a top American Democratic Party staffer preparing to testify against Hillary Clinton was assassinated this past Sunday during a secret meeting in Washington D.C. he believed he was having with Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents, but who turned out, instead, to be a “hit team”—and who, in turn, were captured yesterday after a running gun battle with US federal police forces just blocks from the White House. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]

This SVR report, though, says that DNC official Seth Rich was “lured/enticed” to his murder by this Clinton “hit team” who portrayed themselves as FBI agents wanting to secretly interview him—and that the expelled Russian diplomats had given the US State Department “electronic access” to so that they could be found.

Curiously, this report continues, US authorities, and while being able to track this Clinton “hit team” since 7 July, only confronted these assassins yesterday—and who before being captured, engaged in a gun battle with US federal police forces firing their fully automatic weapons before being trapped and surrendering just blocks from the US Capitol and White House.

In short, WhatDoesItMean.com held that Rich was under the impression he was to meet with FBI agents (at the bizarre hour of 4:00 AM) but in actuality had been set up for a fatal encounter with hit men working on behalf of Hillary Clinton. The site correctly quoted a D.C. Metro police press release, as we contacted the department and confirmed that release contained all known information about Rich’s death:

Detectives from the Metropolitan Police Department’s Homicide Branch are investigating a fatal shooting that occurred in the 2100 block of Flagler Place, Northwest on Sunday, July 10, 2016.

At approximately 4:19 am, members of the Fifth District were patrolling the area when they heard gunshots. Upon arrival on the scene, members located an adult male victim conscious and breathing, and suffering from gunshot wounds. The victim was transported to an area hospital, where he succumbed to his injuries and was pronounced dead.

The decedent has been identified as 27-year-old Seth Conrad Rich, of Northwest, DC.

Police reported that Rich was conscious and breathing at the time of the shooting. Had he any information about his murder having been a set-up, he likely would have conveyed such to attending officer before he died of his wounds shortly thereafter. Contemporaneous news reports suggested that Rich’s murder was indeed perplexing, as elements of the incident were dissonant with the appearance of a robbery gone awry:

“If it was a robbery — it failed because he still has his watch, he still has his money — he still has his credit cards, still had his phone so it was a wasted effort except we lost a life,” said Joel Rich, Seth’s father.

Immediately after that portion, the article quoted the elder Rich regarding the moments prior to his son’s death. According to Joel Rich, Seth was on the phone with his girlfriend when the shooting started, and Rich indicated to his girlfriend that he was nearly home and not headed out for an FBI meeting implausibly scheduled in the middle of the night on a Saturday:

Rich said Seth was talking to his girlfriend on the phone outside when the incident happened.

“Asked him if he was home yet and he said just about, and then she heard some noise, he said he had to call her back — I don’t know when that conversation ended but at 4:18 two shots were fired,” said Rich.

According to Washington, D.C. television station WUSA, a string of robberies had occurred in the area where Rich was killed, and police believe that spate of crime was likely connected with his death. The station also reported that the 27-year-old staffer worked in voter expansion, helping people “find their polling places”; Rich’s age and the relatively minor scope of his duties made him an unlikely linchpin in a conspiracy involving election fraud or any purported testimony against Hillary Clinton. The young staffer had only been employed with the DNC, where he was a Voter Expansion Data Director, since 2014, making his position and tenure an unlikely match-up with possession of crucial information for which he was supposedly killed.

Metropolitan Police Department spokesperson Alice Kim said “there is no indication that Seth Rich’s death is connected to his employment at the DNC.”

Slate also noted that the conspiracy theory version of Rich’s death was lacking in both evidence and sense, yet WikiLeaks has since fanned the flames of speculation by offering a $20,000 reward for information about Rich’s killer:

Julian Assange and his WikiLeaks organization appear to be actively encouraging a conspiracy theory that a Democratic National Committee staffer was murdered for nefarious political purposes, perhaps by Hillary Clinton.

Seth Rich was killed in Washington, D.C., in an early morning shooting that police have speculated was a failed robbery. Because Rich did voter outreach for the DNC and because we live in a ridiculous world, conspiracy theorists have glommed on to a fantastical story that Rich was an FBI informant meeting with purported agents who were actually a hit team sent by Hillary Clinton. There is of course absolutely zero evidence for this.

The fact that the idea is so absurd, though, has not stopped Assange from suggesting that Rich was murdered for nefarious political purposes either because he was an informant for the FBI or because he may have been a source in last month’s WikiLeaks release of thousands of DNC emails.

Rich’s hometown newspaper, the Omaha World-Herald, also observed the lack of any substance to such rumors:

Fevered political conspiracy theories about the death of Seth Rich have been swirling through online comment sections and websites ever since the Omaha native was gunned down early on July 10 close to his home in northwest Washington, D.C.

All indications from police have been that Rich’s death was most likely the result of a botched robbery — a sadly too-common case of a promising young man cut down simply by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But that hasn’t stopped wild Internet speculation from going viral, based in part on the fact that Rich worked at the Democratic National Committee. Internet commenters have suggested that Rich was behind the disclosure of DNC emails to WikiLeaks that helped force the resignation of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida as chairwoman. The conspiracy theorists got new ammunition when WikiLeaks announced a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in Rich’s death.

Never mind the evidence in favor of a robbery, the fact that the leaked emails were released well after his death or even that WikiLeaks itself stressed that the reward should not be taken as an implication that Rich was involved in the email leak.

A spokesman for the Rich family said that people “attempting to politicize this horrible tragedy” are “causing more harm than good”:

ome are attempting to politicize this horrible tragedy, and in their attempts to do so, are actually causing more harm than good and impeding on the ability for law enforcement to properly do their job. For the sake of finding Seth’s killer, and for the sake of giving the family the space they need at this terrible time, they are asking for the public to refrain from pushing unproven and harmful theories about Seth’s murder.

Rich was the second deceased individual “connected” to Clinton by WhatDoesItMean.com and the third inaccurately reported as endangered by the candidate. The same outlet falsely claimed hacker Guccifer (Marcel Lazăr Lehel) was missing and presumed dead after he purportedly hacked into Clinton’s e-mail, and just prior to that the site claimed former UN official John Ashe had been murdered on the eve of his providing scheduled testimony against Clinton. Guccifer was confirmed alive and well by officials at the facility in which he was housed, and a federal prosecutor’s office affirmed Ashe’s legal troubles were in no way connected to Clinton.

A common thread between the three rumors was a blogger known by the nom de plume “Sorcha Faal.” RationalWiki describes Faal’s WhatDoesItMean.com conspiracy site as “sensational” and “outrageous”:

Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of “reports” published at WhatDoesItMean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don’t think much of it.

Each report resembles a news story in its style but usually includes a sensational headline barely related to reality and quotes authoritative high-level Russian sources (such as the Russian Federal Security Service) to support its most outrageous claims. Except for the stuff attributed to unverifiable sources, the reports don’t contain much original material. They are usually based on various news items from the mainstream media and/or whatever the clogosphere is currently hyperventilating about, with each item shoehorned into the conspiracy narrative the report is trying to establish.

While it’s true police maintain an open investigation into Seth Rich’s death, the claim connecting him to Hillary Clinton was the third of its sort to emerge from the same conspiracy-monger in mid-2016. All those rumors were variations on the long-circulating (and false) “body bags” claims that the Clintons habitually do away with once-loyal associates turned political liabilities. Prior to publishing the trio of Clinton-related fabrications, the same site and blogger held that President Obama had ordered the military to nuke the city of Charleston (which didn’t happen), that Rear Admiral Rick Williams was fired because he revealed Obama’s purchase of a mansion in Dubai (Williams was actually terminated for misconduct), and that Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama were enmeshed in a potentially conflict-starting dispute over the practices of the Monsanto agribusiness corporation.

 

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[Colonel Lingus]

lmfao - snopes is a well known CIA disnfo site

[joeybagadonuts]

Pizza pizza

 

-The X

[KingRevolver]

lmfao - snopes is a well known CIA disnfo site

 

Scary to see how many retards like you guys are out there.  Just unbelievable.

 

And I'm not talking about right or left... I'm talking about simpletons who believe these dumbass conspiracies theories based on zero facts.

[Herbie]

I've heard Trump talking about this recently saying the deep state involvement in human trafficking is real and that he is cleaning house. I do wonder if he will keep to his word.

 

Although I grew up eating up Coast to Coast AM and still occasionally listen I'm not that big of a conspiracy freak but wasn't Trump like a huge 9/11 truther before decided to run for office?  Outside of lying about seeing thousands of Arabs dancing post 9/11 in Jersey City what exactly has he, with all the power in the world, done to shed new light on that event?  Either he is content just being the new head puppet master or....

 

Scary to see how many retards like you guys are out there.  Just unbelievable.

 

And I'm not talking about right or left... I'm talking about simpletons who believe these dumbass conspiracies theories based on zero facts.

 

Kinger you ever notice how all these tin-foil hat wearers buy into every single rumor and innuendo regarding the honorable Clintons regardless of how flimsy and non-existent the evidence is yet when at first sound of a negative critique of Trump occurs it is quickly dismissed as "fake news?" 

 

IMHO seems like this should be the last post of the thread but...