DraftKings brings back late swap for NBA

[yisman]

Bump City should be excited,

[FairWarning]

The sharks can fight it out amongst themselves.

[Bump City]

Nice. Took a beating without it.

[yisman]

not that people here care, but late swap increases the edge for the top pros

 

everyone hates getting 0s from late scratches but both pros and casual players are hit by that. The pros use late swap not just to sub out injured players, but to totally re-do lineups as the night progresses.

 

The real problem is the NBA is the absolute worst in terms of player news. The coaches and teams lie as a matter of course and the beat reporters are mostly lazy and don't do their job (like several times the past few seasons a player has not even been in the arena and none of the reporters noticed until the game started). 

[Bump City]

not that people here care, but late swap increases the edge for the top pros

 

everyone hates getting 0s from late scratches but both pros and casual players are hit by that. The pros use late swap not just to sub out injured players, but to totally re-do lineups as the night progresses.

 

The real problem is the NBA is the absolute worst in terms of player news. The coaches and teams lie as a matter of course and the beat reporters are mostly lazy and don't do their job (like several times the past few seasons a player has not even been in the arena and none of the reporters noticed until the game started).

Yes I redo all my lineups. Usually make my money on late swaps following rotoworld and all the super late scratches. End up with 3k guys owned by 1%.

[FairWarning]

not that people here care, but late swap increases the edge for the top pros

 

everyone hates getting 0s from late scratches but both pros and casual players are hit by that. The pros use late swap not just to sub out injured players, but to totally re-do lineups as the night progresses.

 

The real problem is the NBA is the absolute worst in terms of player news. The coaches and teams lie as a matter of course and the beat reporters are mostly lazy and don't do their job (like several times the past few seasons a player has not even been in the arena and none of the reporters noticed until the game started).

Nailed it. I thought hoops was the hardest to win at. The ones who put the time into it (ability to make late swaps) fare the best. One way to combat it is to play just early or just late games.

[yisman]

Nailed it. I thought hoops was the hardest to win at. The ones who put the time into it (ability to make late swaps) fare the best. One way to combat it is to play just early or just late games.

 

Yep. 

 

The problem with that is people want the bigger prize pools and those are for the full slate.

 

But with the current system, for sure the thing to do for casual guys is to play the shorter slates. I'm assuming that's what you're referring to (as opposed to "using only early guys in the full slate"). If you're not going to be on and able to tinker with your lineups for the full 3.5 hours, you're best off not playing late swap. 

[Monitor-Tan]

You get a 0 even with 1 player, it's almost  impossible to win even on at 50/50, with hoops

[FairWarning]

Yep. 

 

The problem with that is people want the bigger prize pools and those are for the full slate.

 

But with the current system, for sure the thing to do for casual guys is to play the shorter slates. I'm assuming that's what you're referring to (as opposed to "using only early guys in the full slate"). If you're not going to be on and able to tinker with your lineups for the full 3.5 hours, you're best off not playing late swap. 

I have a lot of friends who play the big payout tourneys who have no shot.  They are too stubborn to play the shorter slates.

[Bump City]

I have a lot of friends who play the big payout tourneys who have no shot. They are too stubborn to play the shorter slates.

I went from having two high scores on the site in a year - two big cashes- to having an roi of around -50% or even worse. Cant remember how bad it got. I just stopped playing about 1/2 through the season.

[Monitor-Tan]

clearly playing at the wrong site..

 

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[FairWarning]

I went from having two high scores on the site in a year - two big cashes- to having an roi of around -50% or even worse. Cant remember how bad it got. I just stopped playing about 1/2 through the season.

I see your point also. Yiaman nailed the big problem - the lack of injury info.

[Bump City]

I see your point also. Yiaman nailed the big problem - the lack of injury info.

My problem was I key off certain guys in my lineups. Usually 2 to 3 keys that are in the mid to low salary range. I'd use those guy in 90% of my lineups. With 6pm start times guys would get scratched from 7-9 games all the time after 6. Everytime that happened I'd lose 100% of my lineups and that was it. Couldn't recover from those. Then the small edge I gained by late swapping/following news up to the end was eliminated as well. I shouldn't have played. Just pissed money away.

[trytrytry]

Bump was not the +EV to know that can happen, allow others to struggle with that and get the best confirmed line ups possible each and every time at the early games????   Pass on the day if you can find key guys at a price early, never play a late starting player unless you have some lock line up info of some sort

 

seemed too easy, huge % of lineups would be as you say eliminated weekly and people kept taking guys on late games.