Nationalism

[Always Call Heads]

The burning of the reichstag was blamed on communists, which enabled Hitler to launch a crackdown on them. No ones knows who really did it. I could very well have been a false flag, we know a lot about that dont we, but we cant be sure.

Yes, it was generally considered to be a false flag and was very convenient for taking total control. However, leftists do not generally consider communists as their worst enemy since communism is the basis for all left-wing ideas.

[RDTrains]

Sorry but you're wrong, do a little more research please. I'm not saying Ford didn't hate Roosevelt, but the dems embraced Hitler AND Mussolini, the republicans did not.

 

By the way, the deomocrats also were the party of slavery, and they were also the party of segregation in the mid 20'th century. The republicans were the opposite both times.

Nice try Merlin but that shit wont float here. A little history lesson for you although I know deep down inside you already know this.

 

When the GOP was first formed they were very liberal, opposing the expansion of slavery, calling for more spending on public education and seeking more open immigration. Compassionate Abe Lincoln suited the new party's progressive agenda.

 

At the same time, Democrats were conservative, partly dominated by slave holders in the South. These old-style Democrats generally opposed any government action to create jobs or help those in need.

 

Teddy Roosevelt was the last liberal Republican. Ensuing decades saw the GOP grow more conservative and the Dems more liberal.

 

In the 1960s, the "Great Society" of Democrat Lyndon Johnson (1908- 1973) vastly expanded the public safety net and gave legal equality to African-Americans - driving racist Dixie out of the Democratic Party, into the GOP.

 

Then Republican President Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) mobilized the "religious right" of white evangelicals for his party. Later, extreme white conservatives calling themselves "tea party" militants emerged in the GOP.

 

History repeats itself in inexact cycles, and the Republican Party of today bears remarkable similarities to the Democratic Party of the 1850s. So when you tout how great Lincoln and the Republicans were youre really complimenting today's Democrats.

[Machiavelli]

I think a chord can be struck between Patriotism and Nationalism that most people can get on board with.

 

Nationalism makes one very defensive and untrusting of outsiders whereas patriotism has a positive that showcases the best of what a nation and its people can be.

 

But need a blend of both to be safe, secure and prideful.

[mikeman]

Yes, it was generally considered to be a false flag and was very convenient for taking total control. However, leftists do not generally consider communists as their worst enemy since communism is the basis for all left-wing ideas.

Hitler's goal was German domination over all of europe(and beyond), his invasions of central and eastern Europe was  for" lebensraum", living space for german peoples. He despised the russians and other eastern europeans, the fact he hated the communists in no way means his ideology was not leftist, just that they were a threat to his expansionist dreams.

[mikeman]

Nice try Merlin but that shit wont float here. A little history lesson for you although I know deep down inside you already know this.

 

When the GOP was first formed they were very liberal, opposing the expansion of slavery, calling for more spending on public education and seeking more open immigration. Compassionate Abe Lincoln suited the new party's progressive agenda.

 

At the same time, Democrats were conservative, partly dominated by slave holders in the South. These old-style Democrats generally opposed any government action to create jobs or help those in need.

 

Teddy Roosevelt was the last liberal Republican. Ensuing decades saw the GOP grow more conservative and the Dems more liberal.

 

In the 1960s, the "Great Society" of Democrat Lyndon Johnson (1908- 1973) vastly expanded the public safety net and gave legal equality to African-Americans - driving racist Dixie out of the Democratic Party, into the GOP.

 

Then Republican President Ronald Reagan (1911-2004) mobilized the "religious right" of white evangelicals for his party. Later, extreme white conservatives calling themselves "tea party" militants emerged in the GOP.

 

History repeats itself in inexact cycles, and the Republican Party of today bears remarkable similarities to the Democratic Party of the 1850s. So when you tout how great Lincoln and the Republicans were youre really complimenting today's Democrats.

Segregationist policies in in the early to mid 20th century(right up til the 1960's) were lead exclusively by the democratic party, Lyndon Johnson hated blacks, he used them to try to regain political power, just as today the democrats are using immigrants for the same purpose. The democrat party has always been about a ruling elite using cheap labor to feed their needs for money and power, first  slaves, then blacks and union workers, now immigrants.

[Always Call Heads]

Segregationist policies in in the early to mid 20th century(right up til the 1960's) were lead exclusively by the democratic party, Lyndon Johnson hated blacks, he used them to try to regain political power, just as today the democrats are using immigrants for the same purpose. The democrat party has always been about a ruling elite using cheap labor to feed their needs for money and power, first  slaves, then blacks and union workers, now immigrants.

LOL. The Dems were definitely racist in the South and Johnson predicted the party would lose the entire South with Civil Rights which they did. All the Dems in the South went to the Republican party with the Civil Rights battle and the Rs ginned up the racism with Nixon's "Southern Strategy.". It was a great way to gain power for 50 years and will now be the way they lose it for the next 50. 

 

Prior to the 1900s, the two parties were basically reversed. The Dems represented big business and the Rs were more for the common man. 

 

The modern left was born with the Great Depression and the rise of the communists who organized labor across the country and almost overthrew the government and would have if the war had not broken out and the Depression was ended with massive govt spending.

[RDTrains]

Segregationist policies in in the early to mid 20th century(right up til the 1960's) were lead exclusively by the democratic party, Lyndon Johnson hated blacks, he used them to try to regain political power, just as today the democrats are using immigrants for the same purpose. The democrat party has always been about a ruling elite using cheap labor to feed their needs for money and power, first  slaves, then blacks and union workers, now immigrants.

 

Lyndon Johnson (himself a Southern Democrat) got the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964. This was essentially the final nail in the coffin; the majority of white Southerners -- resistant to the changes enacted by the Civil Rights Act -- abandoned the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party, establishing a link between big business favoritism and backwoods racism that endures to this day.

[Always Call Heads]

Segregationist policies in in the early to mid 20th century(right up til the 1960's) were lead exclusively by the democratic party, Lyndon Johnson hated blacks, he used them to try to regain political power, just as today the democrats are using immigrants for the same purpose. The democrat party has always been about a ruling elite using cheap labor to feed their needs for money and power, first  slaves, then blacks and union workers, now immigrants.

Johnson did not like blacks or Martin Luther King but he was not a complete racist. He started out as a school teacher in Cotulla, Texas teaching Mexicans. He felt the Mexicans of Cotulla deserved more than they had and that was why he ran for office. He worked his way up the corrupt Democratic machine and became the top Dem.

 

The Dem party did not initially give a damn about blacks but it was forced upon them by Malcolm X and MLK. Kennedy had to take action because the Souths action were becoming a national embarrassment. Malcolm X was advocating violence and they were clearly not backing down. The Dems decided to embrace MLK because they had no choice.

 

Blacks voted for Rs because it was the party of Lincoln. But the communists demanded that blacks be included in labor unions with equal rights and this resulted in the switch of blacks from the party of Lincoln to the Democratic party.

[Balco]

_{If Nationalism is:}

 

_{Being patriotic}

_{Rooting for my country in war}

_{Wanting my country to be prosperous}

_{Rooting for our Olympic team}

 

 

_{I'm a Nationalist too.}

Perfectly stated.

[Bigrunner]

_{If Nationalism is:}

 

_{Being patriotic}

_{Rooting for my country in war}

_{Wanting my country to be prosperous}

_{Rooting for our Olympic team}

 

 

_{I'm a Nationalist too.}

You're a simpleton also.

 

The Blue Wave has spoken. What is America gonna due with you poisonous people after Pinocchio?

[mikeman]

Lyndon Johnson (himself a Southern Democrat) got the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964. This was essentially the final nail in the coffin; the majority of white Southerners -- resistant to the changes enacted by the Civil Rights Act -- abandoned the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party, establishing a link between big business favoritism and backwoods racism that endures to this day.

Strom Thurmond was the only southern Democrat to join the republicans. 1 is hardly worthy of a generalization like that.

[RDTrains]

Strom Thurmond was the only southern Democrat to join the republicans. 1 is hardly worthy of a generalization like that.

Actually I never mentioned politicians you did. And not only did Strom Thurmond leave the Democrats, so did Jesse Helms and Mills E. Godwin Jr. Thanks for making my case for me.

[mikeman]

Actually I never mentioned politicians you did. And not only did Strom Thurmond leave the Democrats, so did Jesse Helms and Mills E. Godwin Jr. Thanks for making my case for me.

I forgot about Helms(never heard of the other guy), but that does not prove your point, quite the opposite, 2 or 3 guys leaving out of dozens  is evidence that the democratic party was what it was, and it is what it is.

[Always Call Heads]

I forgot about Helms(never heard of the other guy), but that does not prove your point, quite the opposite, 2 or 3 guys leaving out of dozens  is evidence that the democratic party was what it was, and it is what it is.

LOL. The politicians did not leave the party moron. The voters did.

[mikeman]

LOL. The politicians did not leave the party moron. The voters did.

You're the one that claimed  a significant number of southern democrats left the party and became republicans, that didn't happen.

 

You are right about voters leaving the democrat party though, which is why their new plan is to replace the electorate with immigrants,

[Always Call Heads]

You're the one that claimed  a significant number of southern democrats left the party and became republicans, that didn't happen.

 

You are right about voters leaving the democrat party though, which is why their new plan is to replace the electorate with immigrants,

The Dems owned the South prior to Civil Rights because they made concessions to racists and people voted for Dems because of their economic interest mainly due to labor unions.. After Civil Rights, every single Southern state now votes Republican. That is entirely because of race. 

 

The Republican party is entirely dependent on the South.

[RenoChazz]

Nationalism is another form of collectivism, as is socialism. Both are inherent enemies of liberty.

 

Now I'm okay with having a military, education, and health care, but a free society should have as much free agency and free markets as justified.

It's also okay to stand, for the national anthem, but it's far more patriotic to stand because you want to, and not because you have to, as the nationalist would insist.

[RDTrains]

I forgot about Helms(never heard of the other guy), but that does not prove your point, quite the opposite, 2 or 3 guys leaving out of dozens  is evidence that the democratic party was what it was, and it is what it is.

Again I never mentioned politicians, you did. The majority of white Southerners left the Democrats and became Republicans. What part of that statement are you confused about???

[Always Call Heads]

Nationalism is another form of collectivism, as is socialism. 

 

Yes, nationalism is actually leftist in orientation and so is Trump. Trump's economic policy is far to the left of Bernie Sanders when it comes to trade. He is a leftist radical.

 

Republicans have been shocked to learn how little their voters care about economic policy which is just another future nail in the coffin.

[RenoChazz]

Again I never mentioned politicians, you did. The majority of white Southerners left the Democrats and became Republicans. What part of that statement are you confused about???

 

yeah but things have changed, The Republican party has now conceded on civil rights, Just like the Democrats finally conceded on slavery. It's no where near part of the platform

[RenoChazz]

Yes, nationalism is actually leftist in orientation and so is Trump. Trump's economic policy is far to the left of Bernie Sanders when it comes to trade. He is a leftist radical.

 

Republicans have been shocked to learn how little their voters care about economic policy which is just another future nail in the coffin.

Yep and it's sad. I bet the evangelist voters would sell their soul to get a wall

[mikeman]

 

 

The Dems owned the South prior to Civil Rights because they made concessions to racists and people voted for Dems because of their economic interest mainly due to labor unions.. After Civil Rights, every single Southern state now votes Republican. That is entirely because of race. 

 

The Republican party is entirely dependent on the South.

So you're saying that southern states now vote republican because of race, and apparently that's bad? But blacks voting democrat(because of race), is not?

 

The truth is there are a number of reasons the democrats lost the south, race is only one of them, just as there are several reasons why the dems are losing working class workers in the heartland,and race has nothing to so with that.

 

The democrats have become a party of special interests, many of them nutty, is transgenderism really a national issue(only in their minds)?

[sports j]

I think a chord can be struck between Patriotism and Nationalism that most people can get on board with.

 

Nationalism makes one very defensive and untrusting of outsiders whereas patriotism has a positive that showcases the best of what a nation and its people can be.

 

But need a blend of both to be safe, secure and prideful.

which one makes u a chicken shit to scared to defend your country while saying someone who did isnt a hero?

[sports j]

So you're saying that southern states now vote republican because of race, and apparently that's bad? But blacks voting democrat(because of race), is not?

 

The truth is there are a number of reasons the democrats lost the south, race is only one of them, just as there are several reasons why the dems are losing working class workers in the heartland,and race has nothing to so with that.

 

The democrats have become a party of special interests, many of them nutty, is transgenderism really a national issue(only in their minds)?

apparently it is in trumps mind he banned them from military if a he/she wants to give there life for their country why not let them we know he won't do the same?

[sports j]

Yes, nationalism is actually leftist in orientation and so is Trump. Trump's economic policy is far to the left of Bernie Sanders when it comes to trade. He is a leftist radical.

 

Republicans have been shocked to learn how little their voters care about economic policy which is just another future nail in the coffin.

they cared when Obama was in office especially the teaparty which dissapeared faster than jon kreta cheers.