Bigrunner Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Michigan has to be a leader thanks to the insurance rules. I pay $1700/year for full coverage.The rich can easily afford that. Like they needed huge tax cuts. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 The rich can easily afford that. Like they needed huge tax cuts. LolAnd a lot of people are buried on healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 And a lot of people are buried on healthcare.Not the rich. But the Trump tax scam gives the richest huge tax giveaways. Doesn't make sense or does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 A record 7 million Americans are 90 days or more behind on their auto loan payments. Economists warn this is a red flag. Despite the strong economy and low unemployment rate many Americans are struggling to pay their bills. Despite the strong economy and low unemployment an unprecedented 2 trillion has been added to the federal debt. Economists say The Trump Ta Scam is only going to make things worse for most Americans going forward.Good info here. A major recession is coming (if people cant pay their car loans you know they cant pay their house loans or credit card loans) and Trump is probably going to take the hit in his next term (assuming he wins as I have yet to see a legit Dem contender, except Bernie... But the Dem establishment wont let that happen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Not the rich. But the Trump tax scam gives the richest huge tax giveaways. Doesn't make sense or does it?People got buried under Obamacare. Let’s investigate these companies. It’s not a trump issue either, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 People got buried under Obamacare. Let’s investigate these companies. It’s not a trump issue either,Obamacare was sabotaged by the RepubliCONS. That hurt. Then it was sabotaged again by Trump's taxscam. But it's still has a favorable approval. Last midterm, both parties ran on protecting Obamacare. RepubliCONs were lying thou and the voters obviously saw through it. If the RepubliCONS would only work with the Dems in a bipartisan manner Obamacare could be great. But the RepubliCONS never wanted Obama to succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Obamacare was sabotaged by the RepubliCONS. That hurt. Then it was sabotaged again by Trump's taxscam. But it's still has a favorable approval. Last midterm, both parties ran on protecting Obamacare. RepubliCONs were lying thou and the voters obviously saw through it. If the RepubliCONS would only work with the Dems in a bipartisan manner Obamacare could be great. But the RepubliCONS never wanted Obama to succeed.It has favorable appeal by the people who couldn’t get it at a decent price - a good thing. The problem is it’s hurting everyone else to the point of paying the fine instead. At the end of the day, we are picking up the ER tab. The insurance industry needs to be investigated, but that’ll never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Not the rich. But the Trump tax scam gives the richest huge tax giveaways. Doesn't make sense or does it? Jeff Bezos hasnt paid federal taxes in two years. How does that happen? If he was a conservative there is no way he gets away with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Jeff Bezos hasnt paid federal taxes in two years. How does that happen? If he was a conservative there is no way he gets away with.In 2018 Amazon pays a Corp income tax of 21% Much higher in 2017 and 2016. So as the owner of Amazon Jeff Bezos certainly pays federal and state taxes. Now Federal Income taxes is a different story. Billionaire Corporate owners avoid federal income tax by leaving their profits in the business. No distributions only a reasonable salary. These billionaire business owners avoid paying their share of income by leaving the profits in retained earnings. Elizabeth Warren has a plan to make these tax avoiding billionaires pay some tax. It's called a wealth tax. Any person that has wealth of 50 million or more will be subject to a 2% tax. Great idea. So a billionaire would pay a wealth tax of 2 million. Chump change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr vegas Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 People got buried under Obamacare. Let’s investigate these companies. It’s not a trump issue either,doctors won't even take the plans.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifty cint Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Get a 1 way ticket to Vegas...Fisscuk will put you on the payroll as a full time runner. I heard he needs 1 or 2 more ASAP. BOWSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 In 2018 Amazon pays a Corp income tax of 21% Much higher in 2017 and 2016. So as the owner of Amazon Jeff Bezos certainly pays federal and state taxes. Now Federal Income taxes is a different story. Billionaire Corporate owners avoid federal income tax by leaving their profits in the business. No distributions only a reasonable salary. These billionaire business owners avoid paying their share of income by leaving the profits in retained earnings. Elizabeth Warren has a plan to make these tax avoiding billionaires pay some tax. It's called a wealth tax. Any person that has wealth of 50 million or more will be subject to a 2% tax. Great idea. So a billionaire would pay a wealth tax of 2 million. Chump change.2% of a billion is 2 million? I seriously can't believe you're allowed to do taxes and math etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr vegas Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 2% of a billion is 2 million? I seriously can't believe you're allowed to do taxes and math etc...lol......imbecile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 2% of a billion is 2 million? I seriously can't believe you're allowed to do taxes and math etc...20 million is even better. Chump change to a billionaire that is avoiding federal income tax. I'm not wrong very often. Good catch Far Righters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 I hope that Warren plan happens. When you get to be a billionaire it is cool giving 20 mil a year in taxes, because the dude is obviously not giving a high enough percent to charity (seriously, no one person should morally have 1 billion dollars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 I hope that Warren plan happens. When you get to be a billionaire it is cool giving 20 mil a year in taxes, because the dude is obviously not giving a high enough percent to charity (seriously, no one person should morally have 1 billion dollars)There are people out there that think it's insane that anyone has more than maybe 50K, should we listen to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 There are people out there that think it's insane that anyone has more than maybe 50K, should we listen to them?I understand the point, but when you can buy 1000 million dollar homes you should probably be giving some of that to charity... and if you wont i am ok with the government taking portions of it. I believe in a flat tax with no tax loopholes (there would be a lot of irs employees) but that is a pipe dream that will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I understand the point, but when you can buy 1000 million dollar homes you should probably be giving some of that to charity... and if you wont i am ok with the government taking portions of it. I believe in a flat tax with no tax loopholes (there would be a lot of irs employees) but that is a pipe dream that will never happen.Except your "should" is your opinion, which is unimportant to everyone. Surely you wouldn't want to live in a world where my opinion controlled your finances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I understand the point, but when you can buy 1000 million dollar homes you should probably be giving some of that to charity... and if you wont i am ok with the government taking portions of it. I believe in a flat tax with no tax loopholes (there would be a lot of irs employees) but that is a pipe dream that will never happen.One thing that could be done to fix social security is eliminate the ceiling for being taxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 One thing that could be done to fix social security is eliminate the ceiling for being taxed. Or at least raised, of course doing so would mean that rich people would get huge SS checks when they retire, or are you opposed to giving them their fair share? There are several things they could and should do, raise the income cap, tax benefits more for the wealthy, and raise the retirement age a bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Or at least raised, of course doing so would mean that rich people would get huge SS checks when they retire, or are you opposed to giving them their fair share? There are several things they could and should do, raise the income cap, tax benefits more for the wealthy, and raise the retirement age a bit more.If they are a billionaire, do they need their fair share of SS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Hustle Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 i'm just trying to find a job with a respectable wage. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Except your "should" is your opinion, which is unimportant to everyone. Surely you wouldn't want to live in a world where my opinion controlled your finances?Lol it should ideally be collective opinions that control tax structure, but when corporations and money can lobby politicians the collective "opinion" is not taken into account. This is one reason i think this AOC lady is doing so well. She is talking about political finance and how fucked up it is and people are starting to notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 i'm just trying to find a job with a respectable wage. :(Good luck.Not many exist.Computer data/programming fields are growing and health care fields are growing. Most other fields have little incentive to pay higher wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Lol it should ideally be collective opinions that control tax structure, but when corporations and money can lobby politicians the collective "opinion" is not taken into account. This is one reason i think this AOC lady is doing so well. She is talking about political finance and how fucked up it is and people are starting to notice.Doing so well, huh? Getting attention is not exactly the path to political success(in almost all cases), her idiocy has strengthened trump greatly in the last few weeks, she's basically the Kim Kardashian of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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