Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Any good chatter or speculation this week should be put here until Draft Day. I believe it was Guesser who liked that 'Bama DT best in the draft and now I'm hearing a ton about the HOU DL guy. Any chance the Cards grab one of them instead of Murray?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 0% chance they grab Ed Oliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 0% chance they grab Ed OliverAgree. No chance at #1. It’s Murray, Bosa, or they trade down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 0% chance they grab Ed OliverWell, the Raiders may overpay for the 1st pick. I would trade it for 1.4 and 2.4 since they have Rosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Well, the Raiders may overpay for the 1st pick. I would trade it for 1.4 and 2.4 since they have Rosen. So then we'd draft DL and like WR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 So then we'd draft DL and like WR?Probably so. They need 2 difference makers. An OL is a need also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguesser Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Any good chatter or speculation this week should be put here until Draft Day. I believe it was Guesser who liked that 'Bama DT best in the draft and now I'm hearing a ton about the HOU DL guy. Any chance the Cards grab one of them instead of Murray??If the Cards are smart, they will grab Quinnen Williams, or trade out of the spot. He will be a game changing player, a younger Aaron Donald. Especially if the best they can get for Rosen is a 2nd, or even worse, a 3rd. But I don't think the Cards are smart, unfortunately for them. I really like Murray, but I also really like Rosen, and if you have Rosen, you don't take Murray, unless you're offered a #1(and a relatively high #1) for him. Oliver is good, but he's not Williams. I think Bosa and Oliver are both real good, but the way they handled last season in College leads me to seriously question their desire. If you're not all in on every play on the DL, you'll be exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Damn. While hyped on Murray, I can settle for that dude then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 The cards could have been hyping up Murray the entire time also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 The cards could have been hyping up Murray the entire time also.So have I! And with it appearing that I've been correct, it's like I want to see that through. But if Guesser's opinions prove to be correct, then I hope that route gets taken since it can prob lead to losing to the Chiefs in the title game much faster than drafting Murray will lead to losing to the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguesser Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 So have I! And with it appearing that I've been correct, it's like I want to see that through. But if Guesser's opinions prove to be correct, then I hope that route gets taken since it can prob lead to losing to the Chiefs in the title game much faster than drafting Murray will lead to losing to the Chiefs.Murray will be real good to great, IMO. But so will Rosen, and trading a franchise QB for a 2nd or 3rd is bad business. If they could get a 1st back for him, then drafting Kyler would be an OK move. It's all about value to me. Their best course would be extra picks for the #1 + Rosen, or Quinnen + Rosen. Murray and an extra #2 or #3 just doesn't make sense to me. Which is why that's what they'll probably do. Also, them NOT taking Murray will spice up the draft in so many ways, and I always root for chaos, if my team isn't involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Murray will be real good to great, IMO. But so will Rosen, and trading a franchise QB for a 2nd or 3rd is bad business. If they could get a 1st back for him, then drafting Kyler would be an OK move. It's all about value to me. Their best course would be extra picks for the #1 + Rosen, or Quinnen + Rosen. Murray and an extra #2 or #3 just doesn't make sense to me. Which is why that's what they'll probably do. Also, them NOT taking Murray will spice up the draft in so many ways, and I always root for chaos, if my team isn't involved. Who does Rosen remind you of? I just think he's blah or a tad better while Murray rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Who does Rosen remind you of? I just think he's blah or a tad better while Murray rocks.No matter the qb, they need to get him some playmakers. I like Fits but he’s not a playmaker. The salary cap implications of trading Rosen can’t be ignored . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Anything about your squad being mentioned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Anything about your squad being mentioned?They are in love with a RB and may trade up to get him. I think they need a pass rusher or a OL more than a RB since they only have one pick in the top 125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 If the Cards are smart, they will grab Quinnen Williams A local source very close to the Cardinals admits he doesn't know what exactly they are going to do. But yesterday he did say they will not draft Williams at #1. They will draft Murray, Bosa, or trade the pick. He's rarely if ever wrong. He's got an ear straight to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 A local source very close to the Cardinals admits he doesn't know what exactly they are going to do. But yesterday he did say they will not draft Williams at #1. They will draft Murray, Bosa, or trade the pick. He's rarely if ever wrong. He's got an ear straight to the top. Jurecki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 I mean tbh who gives a fuck? Cardinals stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Jurecki? John Gambadoro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 John Gambadoro. I don't care for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 I don't care for him. He's a love him or hate him type of character. But his inside info on the local teams is by FAR the best in the market and blows away any info the national media may think they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted April 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 He's a love him or hate him type of character. But his inside info on the local teams is by FAR the best in the market and blows away any info the national media may think they have. Yea. Mostly think he's a blowhard but then other times he's okay. Def clued in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 Look for Patrick Peterson to get traded if the Cards can find a dance partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTiger Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 I have been very interested in the NFL Draft for over twenty years. But since my Browns have their shit together somewhat, it's more likely than not that I don't even watch, and just check ESPN, etc. for the picks. IF they trade back into the first round, though, it's back to my usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 They should get rid of Rosen with any chance they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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