Waz BettorIQ is a fraud

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Well anyone can bet 3000 games a season.  Just take a look at the card and just bet half of the card every day.  The issue is he claims a 2% roi which would mean 100 unit profit.  

 

 

Do I think he has made a 100 units in a cbb season?  I think he might have done that 1 time at the most.  There is no way someone can make 100 units in a cbb season every season.  No pro is going to make 100 units on average every cbb season.  If he averaged 50 units each cbb season, he would bet the number one cbb bettor in the world.  This guy implied 100 units.  Even if it was 25 units, he would be one of the best cbb capper out there.

 

 

He says he bet anything that is 0.5 points off, not even 1 point.  Do you know how ridiculous that is?  Why not just bet half the card then?

 

 

There are definitely some ppl that bought plays from him.  But after they saw how he did, they avoid him.  He isn't giving anyone a refund.  Look at his picture on bettoriq and you can see a scumbag lying tout.

 

 

It doesn't matter what packages he has when he is not a winning bettor.  Didn't someone bet here that he would be up units after being down x unit and that was his associate and his associate lost?  This guy cannot win in any sport.  Claims to be an nhl expert.  What's next?  Claiming to be a tennis expert with complex models?  He is full of it.

 

 

He isn't going to pull anything off.  He is getting exposed.  Now if he showed his record and wasn't lying or hiding it, I wouldn't say anything bad about him.  But when you claim ridiculous things like 100 units in a cbb season on average each season no less, talk about complex model you use for other sports... yet lose in all sports besides NFL and then only bump threads where it goes in your favor but not when you are wrong, then there is an issue.

I don't like his chances for selling his own picks. But Waz is only HOPING to sell picks. He is a tout service provider. He is providing marketing and customers service to ESTABLISHED touts. He is hoping that he will get some referrals and will get hot himself and then he will get his own clients. That is when he will make the BIG bucks.

 

He's off to a good start. He thought drinkyourmilkshake had potential and he hit it out of the park his first year and drink is on his way to making six figures touting if he keeps it up. Waz gets a cut of that as he gets a cut of all his other touts.

 

He's got a business that is already profitable and it stands to make a lot more money. If he can get his own customers, he stands to make it big. He thinks he can do it. We shall see. He does not have much to lose.

[FISHHEAD]

Are there any expenses involved with his TOUT SERVICE?

Also, is he still associated with DOC's?

[rito]

Even if your model was 100% accurate (impossible and absurd to even consider)  a .5pt edge on cbb game is -ev at -110

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Even if your model was 100% accurate (impossible and absurd to even consider)  a .5pt edge on cbb game is -ev at -110

I think Jerryfan got a little carried away. I heard Waz say he bet 1 point off and bet almost everything on the board. 

[FISHHEAD]

Good movement on the STROS/CHW game as well as other games this morning..........UP and DOWN

Good day in the box thus far in follow up of the two hours worth of slot sweeps this morning on the LV STRIP

Did not see WAZ

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Wow, checked at EOG and it turns out Drink spent 45K on vet bills for his dog. I hope Teddy does not find this out. It will be worse than jerryfan if Drink does not produce a profit next year.

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Drink also reports that Waz was away from the game for 3 years. I knew when I heard Waz say that sports gambling was too easy and he was going to just do the stock market that he was not as sharp as he thought.

[FISHHEAD]

Good movement on the STROS/CHW game as well as other games this morning..........UP and DOWN

Good day in the box thus far in follow up of the two hours worth of slot sweeps this morning on the LV STRIP

Did not see WAZ

 

Gonna hit the streets again for a couple hours and grab a bite to eat at the ARIA or COSMO in the process.

 

Will be back in the box around 3pm PT for those here involved with -FHW- 

[Jerryfan]

Rito, do you believe that Waz is a fraud?

 

 

 

Do you believe someone like him average 3000 cbb plays a year... and has a 2% roi... which translate to about 100 profit for the entire cbb season.  He implied a percentage where the total amount units won would be around 100 units.

 

 

 

Nobody can do that in my opinion.  He is so full of it.  If someone could average 25 units every season in any sport, they would be one of the best already.  This fraud claims 100 unit profit while betting 1.1 to win 1 unit.  Do you believe that?  

[FairWarning]

Jerry - were you a customer of his and lost? It seems that way. Were all of his play game spreads only, or were there some 1h, 2H, totals in there also? Dinkenson was playing his stuff in the past and won.

[FISHHEAD]

Are there any expenses involved with his TOUT SERVICE?

bump

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Jerry - were you a customer of his and lost? It seems that way. Were all of his play game spreads only, or were there some 1h, 2H, totals in there also? Dinkenson was playing his stuff in the past and won.

Yeah Jerryfan, if you want to go after Waz, you are taking the wrong route. You may not think that Waz should sell picks but he said he only had THREE customers and he had to give them another package. You cannot be a scammer with THREE customers and now NO customers. He was even selling his picks for $5. That ain't no scammer.

 

You cannot even complain about his record because it does not really count because he had no customers.

 

The guy that got screwed here is Dink. He put all these guys together and now he has to pay for picks and he is not happy about it and I don't blame him. That ain't right!!! These guys sold Dink out.

 

This whole 100-unit kick you are on just doesn't matter. He is not selling 3,000 picks and not claiming to offer 100 units of profit although he has apparently said you can make 100 units. And darn if all the BettorIQ boys did not produce 100 units together. But Dink got none of them.

 

Try to get Dink at least a free subscription Jerryfan. He deserves it.

[drnkyourmlkshk1]

Dink is one of my best friends on earth. I move the numbers a little and he refuses to take secondary numbers. We had a run of 2 or 3 years where I wasn't moving numbers and we made a very good income in college football.

I believe around 2016 every account I touched lit up the screen and things got harder for us to get down as a team. He was taking the worst number in cfb and I was taking the worst of it in NHL. We still speak twice a week at length I'd guess. We talk about life mostly and share plays here and there. Dink would never be asked for a penny if he wanted my plays and he knows that.

 

I work with someone in NBA and we have crushed that for 2 years and dont move that larger market as much and I was able to give Alan some profitable plays this year here and there. If I have ever had a question on anything gambling related I do not have any doubt in my mind that he is the smartest man in the room on any subject.

[Jimmy Hoffa]

Fuck off TOUT.

 

 

Sell your bullshit somewhere else...

[drnkyourmlkshk1]

Oh and saw the teddy will rip him to shreds over the vet bills. My dog was my life we made it 15 wonderful years and the last 3 years 2 strokes and 2 operations and a extended stay at a ER vet but I would sell my home to go through it all again. Dog is off limits please. Can't have kids and kids are off limits on forums I ask for that same respect as she was my child.

 

I have leaks yes but that was not one of them. I never say no to family on loans that eventually become gifts it seems. I also backed losing poker players for a long time. People cant win when they raise the stakes took me too long to realize that I was the only one willing to put 1000% in everytime I sat down. People that talked the talk rarely walked the walk.

Oh well and gl 2 all

[Jimmy Hoffa]

 Dog is off limits please. Can't have kids and kids are off limits on forums I ask for that same respect as she was my child.

 

 

 

A dog is a dog, and a tout is a tout.

 

 

Live with it bullshitter.

[Sam Losco]

Oh and saw the teddy will rip him to shreds over the vet bills. My dog was my life we made it 15 wonderful years and the last 3 years 2 strokes and 2 operations and a extended stay at a ER vet but I would sell my home to go through it all again. Dog is off limits please. Can't have kids and kids are off limits on forums I ask for that same respect as she was my child.

 

I have leaks yes but that was not one of them. I never say no to family on loans that eventually become gifts it seems. I also backed losing poker players for a long time. People cant win when they raise the stakes took me too long to realize that I was the only one willing to put 1000% in everytime I sat down. People that talked the talk rarely walked the walk.

Oh well and gl 2 all

sorry for your loss, and even though it would be in bad taste to make fun of your dogs, pets are never and will never be on the same level as children

[drnkyourmlkshk1]

sorry for your loss, and even though it would be in bad taste to make fun of your dogs, pets are never and will never be on the same level as children

I understand that for people who have children. I would never make fun of either. I only ask for my circumstance that the dog can be left out of it.

 

Tout bashing, balding ginger, old shirt wearer, talks about numbers he beat too often, spends his life in a casino, has weird friends, cant get laid in Cuba, gluten and lactose intolerant, lost in the woods whatever all acceptable.

[Jimmy Hoffa]

I understand that for people who have children. I would never make fun of either. I only ask for my circumstance that the dog can be left out of it.

 

 

 

The TGF Code of Conduct does not mention dogs.

 

 

So fuck off Tout Boy.

[Jerryfan]

Did he seriously only have 3 customers?  On his site, it shows him selling a full year package etc for few hundred etc.  I would have thought someone like him got at least 10 customers at the minimum... probably much more than that.  He does advertise his site good but its a clear fraud when ppl know he is not winning.

 

 

I have no idea what his plays are until someone said you could check his plays in his site and it does a daily tally.  Then i notice he no longer show any plays from him, i wonder why?  He couldn't win or he tried to hide his record was it.

 

 

He was selling plays for $5?  What kind of joke is that then?  Did he say this specifically?

 

 

Well he claims to average 3000 cbb plays per season and 2% roi which translates to 100 units a cbb season profit.  If someone bet $550 to win $500 per game, that would mean $50000 profit.  Of course that would mean like 15 plays a day on average on weekdays and probably like 50 plays on weekend etc.  

 

 

But who here honestly believes that?  If he could on average make 3000 plays a year and on average make 25 units every season roughly, then he would be bettor than majority of bettors already and probably elite.  But this guy implied 100 units.  That is basically statistically not possible every season.  Do the stat guys here agree with this?  Do you think its possible he was up around 100 units on average every year?  50 already sounds like a lie.  He implied 100.

 

 

Well let say he was to post all his plays daily on a site to record his plays for the entire cbb season.  Who here thinks he would be up even 50 units?  What about 25 units?  Who in the world here would bet he profit less than 100 units?  Most ppl would lay huge odds he wouldn't even average 50 unit profit over 3000 plays correct?

[BGS 9.5]

Did he seriously only have 3 customers?  On his site, it shows him selling a full year package etc for few hundred etc.  I would have thought someone like him got at least 10 customers at the minimum... probably much more than that.  He does advertise his site good but its a clear fraud when ppl know he is not winning.

 

 

I have no idea what his plays are until someone said you could check his plays in his site and it does a daily tally.  Then i notice he no longer show any plays from him, i wonder why?  He couldn't win or he tried to hide his record was it.

 

 

He was selling plays for $5?  What kind of joke is that then?  Did he say this specifically?

 

 

Well he claims to average 3000 cbb plays per season and 2% roi which translates to 100 units a cbb season profit.  If someone bet $550 to win $500 per game, that would mean $50000 profit.  Of course that would mean like 15 plays a day on average on weekdays and probably like 50 plays on weekend etc.  

 

 

But who here honestly believes that?  If he could on average make 3000 plays a year and on average make 25 units every season roughly, then he would be bettor than majority of bettors already and probably elite.  But this guy implied 100 units.  That is basically statistically not possible every season.  Do the stat guys here agree with this?  Do you think its possible he was up around 100 units on average every year?  50 already sounds like a lie.  He implied 100.

 

 

Well let say he was to post all his plays daily on a site to record his plays for the entire cbb season.  Who here thinks he would be up even 50 units?  What about 25 units?  Who in the world here would bet he profit less than 100 units?  Most ppl would lay huge odds he wouldn't even average 50 unit profit over 3000 plays correct?

How many fucking times are you going to repeat this math?  JFC we get it.

[FISHHEAD]

How many fucking times are you going to repeat this math?  JFC we get it.

LOL

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Jerryfan, does it really matter how many units Waz won per year as a professional bettor? 

 

We know he won a major contest. That alone is enough to sell picks. We know Dink used his picks. Dink says the lines would move 1 point on him. He has apparently lived in LV for a number of years.

 

Waz has not made any claims about how many units he will win a follower. But he's qualified to sell picks even if you don't think he should. More qualified than most.

 

He's selling picks whether you like it or not. So just follow along and laugh it up when he loses like everyone else. 

[Guest Six Ghosts]

Jerryfan do you even know anything about Waz other than he is talked about at EOG? I mean the guy has not even posted at EOG. He was on a couple of EOG radio shows as a favor to Dink and now he has stalkers at EOG. 

 

Drinkyourmilkshake has his stalkers too but he has at least gotten on people's nerves posting there.

 

Waz just decided to sell picks and people have gone nuts because he appeared on an EOG radio show. 

 

Don't you think this a little bizarre? What is your hangup with the guy?

[Jerryfan]

Anyone can win a contest in a small sample.  

 

 

He said in podcast someone posted that clients would receive 1/2 or 1 point worst and that it was no big deal.  Do you think there is an issue here?  He posted in the eogthread that he wants to sell plays and want his clients to be up 100k in 6 months and enjoy the winning with them.  What kind of bs is that?  This guy cannot even win betting his own plays which is why he is a tout.  Do i think he won back then, yes.  But is he a winner anymore, no.  

 

 

Just look at that smug look he has on his profile on the bettoriq site.  Seems like some arrogant know it all ... yet he can't win so he needs customers to profit.  

 

 

Drink is legit.  I never said anything bad about him.  If anything, i say he is one of the great posters.  But the issue is he associate himself with that shady waz guy.

 

 

Read his reply to others in the eogthread when he gets called out.  It was such an embarrassment that he no longer post there.  Also take a look at his twitter.  He bumps anything that looks positive for him but anything that isn't, he makes sure it doesn't get looked at.  He is not honest.  Just looking at his profile, you see a scumbag, deceiving tout.

 

 

I don't believe he only had 3 customers.  You telling me a site like that with lot of cappers and him being the owner of the site, only 3 customers bought plays from him the entire time he posted packages?  That is a straight up lie.  So many customers did the other guys on his site got then?  They surely got more than him obviously right if he only had 3 customers?  There is 0 way he only had 3 customers the entire time.  That is beyond ridiculous.  He had much more customers and they probably were pissed off he keeps losing and some he may have given a refund.  Others probably just said screw the guy and didn't bother to message him bac.

 

 

Look at his profile on the bettoriq site.  Talks about his advanced modeling for every sport.  What is next?  He is going to be an expert and use advanced models on soccer and table tennis and curling?