Dark Raver Camper Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 JFC, congrats$600 and $750 just for adderall XR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Raver Camper Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 $200 here, $100 there, $10 everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 If the guy would have lost his money and he called in and admitted he used another isp address would you have refunded his money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Raver Camper Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 I don't care about who's right or wrong. I find the below funny. Dude babysits for someone with a sportsbook account? Hes my nephew. I babysit for him sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Just curious why would you send $450 for his troubles and don't say cause you are a nice guy. Bottom line if he tried to screw you he gets nothing if you have proof. Handing him $450 doesn't look as good as you think.Because I knew he was going to cry foul at the forums so basically the extra $450 was to get him to sign the letter to make it easier for all of us. I knew that as soon as it was paid he would go to the SBR which he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 FanDuel and DraftKings verify your IP at login, offshore can do it also if they wanr.Keep in mind that we use a software that was probably designed in 1985. DGS blows big time, it`s very old school. Some of the verification providers like IOvation charge you per visit so most if not all books usually only record IP addresses of the sign up form and the cashier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 If the guy would have lost his money and he called in and admitted he used another isp address would you have refunded his money?No guy has ever done that and I doubt that I would but you guys make it sound like a free rolled him but he is the one trying to free roll me to begin with by creating a second account to receive the max bonus. One thing most of you dont seem to understand that this is not a simple deposit, once a bonus is received he knows he is trying to take a shot and in the best case scenario he gets paid out and if it doesnt works out he gets his original deposit back. That`s fucked up but all of you think Im the bad guy. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Keep in mind that we use a software that was probably designed in 1985. DGS blows big time, it`s very old school. Some of the verification providers like IOvation charge you per visit so most if not all books usually only record IP addresses of the sign up form and the cashier. Why not hire a coder and customize it or create your own software? Or maybe create a company/partnership with some coders to sell more modern software to other books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 No guy has ever done that and I doubt that I would but you guys make it sound like a free rolled him but he is the one trying to free roll me to begin with by creating a second account to receive the max bonus. One thing most of you dont seem to understand that this is not a simple deposit, once a bonus is received he knows he is trying to take a shot and in the best case scenario he gets paid out and if it doesnt works out he gets his original deposit back. That`s fucked up but all of you think Im the bad guy. lol How does he get his deposit back if he loses? I don't see how the player is freerolling. I do see how the book is however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 BTW Opti, yes they BOTH took a bonus. The guy is just trying to slender me because he knows he took a shot and he lost. Feel free to email me whenever you want a picture of the deposit. BTW I find it hilarious that you want to talk about shills, there is no biggest shill in the sportsbook industry than the company that you work for and how they stole more than a million dollars from your own posters . Betislands.ag #NeverForget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 How does he get his deposit back if he loses? I don't see how the player is freerolling. I do see how the book is however.So you think it`s ok for a guy to continue to try to cheat and get his money back if he is caught. This most be the only industry where that is a policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 BTW Opti, yes they BOTH took a bonus. The guy is just trying to slender me because he knows he took a shot and he lost. Feel free to email me whenever you want a picture of the deposit. BTW I find it hilarious that you want to talk about shills, there is no biggest shill in the sportsbook industry than the company that you work for and how they stole more than a million dollars from your own posters . Betislands.ag #NeverForgetLol, true. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 So you think it`s ok for a guy to continue to try to cheat and get his money back if he is caught. This most be the only industry where that is a policy.I’ve always thought that those monies should go to charity. Why should the book profit? BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 I’ve always thought that those monies should go to charity. Why should the book profit? BAUSBecause it`s not the book`s fault that a player tries to steal. If a Bank is robbed (forget about the insurance) and the thieves get caught with the cash, should it go back to the bank or should it go to charity? Should the bank pay the thieves for the money that they spent in food and hotels while they planned the hit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Because it`s not the book`s fault that a player tries to steal. If a Bank is robbed (forget about the insurance) and the thieves get caught with the cash, should it go back to the bank or should it go to charity? Should the bank pay the thieves for the money that they spent in food and hotels while they planned the hit .Poor analogy. Say a player sends in $500. Takes a bonus. Runs up the balance to $8000. He wants to cash out, you properly determine fraud, and refund his $500. But the $7500? Why does the book get to keep that? BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Poor analogy. Say a player sends in $500. Takes a bonus. Runs up the balance to $8000. He wants to cash out, you properly determine fraud, and refund his $500. But the $7500? Why does the book get to keep that? BAUS Depends on perspective. That $7,500 is air money. Only legit money from that transaction is the original $500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Depends on perspective. That $7,500 is air money. Only legit money from that transaction is the original $500. But this is why people will claim the book free-rolled the player. If he loses that $500 the book will never determine fraud (after the fact) and return the initial deposit. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 But this is why people will claim the book free-rolled the player. If he loses that $500 the book will never determine fraud (after the fact) and return the initial deposit. BAUS That matter of perspective thing. DOTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 So you think it`s ok for a guy to continue to try to cheat and get his money back if he is caught. This most be the only industry where that is a policy.Why do you consider someone taking a bonus that you offer publicly to anyone off of the street cheating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 That matter of perspective thing. DOTSIt's not a matter of perspective. It's a matter of fact. The only one that wins is the book in that situation. It's the definition of a free roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Musketeers Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Because I knew he was going to cry foul at the forums so basically the extra $450 was to get him to sign the letter to make it easier for all of us. I knew that as soon as it was paid he would go to the SBR which he did. Because I knew he was going to cry foul at the forums so basically the extra $450 was to get him to sign the letter to make it easier for all of us. I knew that as soon as it was paid he would go to the SBR which he did. So you are saying you can only bet from your sign up IP address. If there is another account at your site from say a relatives house with a different IP he/she is NOT allowed to use that computer to bet into his own account? When I visit relatives and they have offshore accounts at the same place I do and I use their computers there is never a problem. Hell I asked for payouts using their computer and they have accounts at the same place YouWager.eu. NEVER any problem. Also I will never understand why you would never ask for photo ID back and front and utility bill on a deposit. Why your life credentials on a payout? Well I know why but want to hear your answer. Don't say it's to verify the customer . if that's the case you don't give a rats ass who sends money just when it departs your hand. I wonder how many customers lost their winnings while waiting for you to verify their identity on payouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 No guy has ever done that and I doubt that I would but you guys make it sound like a free rolled him but he is the one trying to free roll me to begin with by creating a second account to receive the max bonus. One thing most of you dont seem to understand that this is not a simple deposit, once a bonus is received he knows he is trying to take a shot and in the best case scenario he gets paid out and if it doesnt works out he gets his original deposit back. That`s fucked up but all of you think Im the bad guy. lolThese guys know you didn't free roll anyone. These .005% occurances where some asshat tries to circumvent clearly posted, industry wide rules, are always great opportunity for the self annointed brilliants to act as industry cops, watchdogs, innovators and full fledged idiots. Personally I think you caught some obvious scammer at the proper time, treated him more than fairly and were obliging enough to explain it to a host of clowns that should get an obligatory fukk you and thats it. Should you pull an insurance scam, slave wages or class action lawsuit when someone tries to deposit into your book I may change my mind. So be very careful as I am very smart and impoortant like everybody else that posts here. -BLOTCH- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Why do you consider someone taking a bonus that you offer publicly to anyone off of the street cheating?Because if the person is not elegible for a bonus he is cheating. I`ve never done this for a client that qualifies for a bonus no matter how much he beats me by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 These guys know you didn't free roll anyone. These .005% occurances where some asshat tries to circumvent clearly posted, industry wide rules, are always great opportunity for the self annointed brilliants to act as industry cops, watchdogs, innovators and full fledged idiots. Personally I think you caught some obvious scammer at the proper time, treated him more than fairly and were obliging enough to explain it to a host of clowns that should get an obligatory fukk you and thats it. Should you pull an insurance scam, slave wages or class action lawsuit when someone tries to deposit into your book I may change my mind. So be very careful as I am very smart and impoortant like everybody else that posts here. -BLOTCH-I agree with you that the person most likely was in the wrong. I also agree with the post right above you that books don’t care as long as the person loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 I agree with you that the person most likely was in the wrong. I also agree with the post right above you that books don’t care as long as the person loses.It's not that they don't care. The available software upgrade is extremely cost prohibitive and probably not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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