mikeman Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Just came from NY Presbyterian hospital on york and 68 th. One of the top hospitals in nyc. Having surgery Tuesday need screening. entire place is empty. It’s surreal. I arrived mask and gloves. They take temperature without you knowing with some electronic machine. I had to put a mask on top of my mask to enter the hospital. Masks can not have vents. I know a few DR’s personally and they have all said the same thing, this is so much worse then anyone understands for those who end up in Hospital. There was misinformation initially with the masks but it’s clear med community determined it helps reduce likelihood of transmission . looking at all the open cities and crowds, good luck. I was convinced sports would be back and perhaps they will but it’s inevitable some player will come down with Covid. So your vented mask was prob a N-95, and it wasn't good enough, they just like to have everyone jump through their hoops, power trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Complicated issues and I think that’s an overreaching statement. Both made mistakes which isn’t a surprise when handling this. . I think Cuomo has done a very good job overall if we take out the nursing homes. He is a sound leader who talks facts with this crisis. I know about the energy corruption and it’s despicable. I am not much involved in politics so my opinion carries little weight in this regard. I don’t like him Much but I like mayor bill less. nursing homes account for about 12-15% of all NY deaths I think? Tell me more about the murder my focus has literally been on trying to stay virus free and maintain order IMO keeping subways running and the "nursing home incidents" are tantamount to murder or maybe just stupidity. Stay safe dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 Roughly 25% of people in NYC have already had it, yet we'll hear some scare tactic about a barber who got it ...oh no, how shocking, plenty of barbers have had it, just as plenty of grocery clerks, walmart employees, and everyone else. The fear is fading, the fear mongers are losing, here in Mn the churches announced they would defy the Gov, then trump made his statement about churches being essential - yesterday the Governor announced "yea, he'll allow them to meet" but he didn't cave in - he changed his mind because of new info. uh huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogball Posted May 24, 2020 Report Share Posted May 24, 2020 IMO keeping subways running and the "nursing home incidents" are tantamount to murder or maybe just stupidity. Stay safe dog.Thank you , likewise. Yes subways 100% agree. I guess the issue is how else would people move around the city but I feel so badlya disproportionate amount of mta workers died and all the essential workers use subways. They only recently started cleaning and sanitizing them. That was a significant misstep for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Good news. ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus is losing its potency and has become much less lethal, a senior Italian doctor said on Sunday."In reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy," said Alberto Zangrillo, the head of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan in the northern region of Lombardy, which has borne the brunt of Italy's coronavirus contagion."The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out a month or two months ago," he told RAI television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogball Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Good news. ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus is losing its potency and has become much less lethal, a senior Italian doctor said on Sunday."In reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy," said Alberto Zangrillo, the head of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan in the northern region of Lombardy, which has borne the brunt of Italy's coronavirus contagion."The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out a month or two months ago," he told RAI television.Great news if accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 31, 2020 Report Share Posted May 31, 2020 Great news if accurate. Deaths are dropping almost everywhere, keep in mind it can take 4-5 weeks or more to die after exposure, people dying now might have been infected around mid - late april. It's quite possible in a month or so it'll just fizzle out, lets hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miley Cyrus Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Overweight pal of mine at work caught it and tested positive for it over Memorial Day weekend, but was functioning just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 full report in German, https://www.ichbinanderermeinung.de/Dokument93.pdfoverview in English, https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...l-false-alarm/Initially, the government tried to dismiss the report as “the work of one employee”, and its contents as “his own opinion” – while the journalists closed ranks, no questions asked, with the politicians.But the 93-pages report titled “Analysis of the Crisis Management” has been drafted by a scientific panel appointed by the interior ministry and composed by external medical experts from several German universities.The report was the initiative of a department of the interior ministry called Unit KM4 and in charge with the “Protection of critical infrastructures”.This is also where the German official turned whistleblower, Stephen Kohn, work(ed), and from where he leaked it to the media.The authors of the report issued a joint press release already on May 11th, berating the government for ignoring expert advise, and asking for the interior minister to officially comment upon the experts joint statement:“Therapeutic and preventive measures should never bring more harm than the illness itself. Their aim should be to protect the risk groups, without endangering the availability of medical care and the health of the whole population, as it is unfortunately occurring”“We in the scientific and medical praxis are experiencing the secondary damages of the Corona-measures on our patients on a daily basis.”“We therefore ask the Federal Ministry of the Interior, to comment upon our press release, and we hope for a pertinent discussion regarding the [Corona] measures, one that leads to the best possible solution for the whole population”KEY FINDINGS: The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.A Corona-focused German healthcare system is postponing life-saving surgery and delaying or reducing treatment for non-Corona patients. (including 52,000 Cancer operations that were delayed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 So Teddy was right unless you were old and or sickly chicken soup and OJ would've done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Today in NY they reported over 50K in new tests with less than 1000 positives, by far the lowest % ever, deaths also dropped to a new low of 54. This pandemic is falling apart, by july 1 it could be virtually gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted June 1, 2020 Report Share Posted June 1, 2020 Today in NY they reported over 50K in new tests with less than 1000 positives, by far the lowest % ever, deaths also dropped to a new low of 54. This pandemic is falling apart, by july 1 it could be virtually gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Today there were 325 deaths in the US, the lowest since march 25th, we're making good progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chapo2017 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Today there were 325 deaths in the US, the lowest since march 25th, we're making good progress. 325? According to Trump it was going to "disappear with the warm weather". Trump really is a CLUELESS POS... Donald Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 325? According to Trump it was going to "disappear with the warm weather". Trump really is a CLUELESS POS... Donald Trump? It is chappy, from 3000 to 300 in 2 months, what more do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 It is chappy, from 3000 to 300 in 2 months, what more do you want?Trump said it would go from 15 to 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chapo2017 Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Trump said it would go from 15 to 0.Exactly. Trump is Completely INDEFENSIBLE... It really must suck to be some Mindless Zombie (Blindly Defending Trump day in and day out) as they strain to get in line for the next Delusional Trump Mouthshit. ^What a Thankless Job that must be. No shade...Just sayin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Losco Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 It is chappy, from 3000 to 300 in 2 months, what more do you want?trump said 0 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 This pandemic is falling apart, by july 1 it could be virtually gone.Good lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Good lordNY peaked with 800 deaths in a day - yesterday they had 24, hospitals are emptying out...I ask again, what more do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Global stocks tanked on Monday as investors assessed increases in COVID-19 cases and the odds of another lockdown in China and increasing infections in the US, as fears of a so-called second wave grow.The Financial Times reported on the weekend that 80 new cases were recorded in Beijing over the weekend. This marked the end of a 50 day period where Beijing had reported no new case, raising the specter of a second wave of COVID-19 and lockdown hitting the Chinese capital. The risks spooked investors all across the globe, with every major stock index down. Read More: Bernstein says buy these 7 stocks that are unfairly beaten-down and built for explosive gains in the futureFutures underlying the three major stock indices in the US were all set to open lower by more than 1.5%.Markets were already volatile last week as the US faced an uptick in COVID-19 cases, and many states discussed re-tightening lockdown measures.The risks prompted the Dow to face its worst day since March last Thursday, in part due to the risks of a second wave and as traders weighed Fed Chair Jerome Powell's comments that the pandemic could result in permanent damage to US employment. {C}Texas reported record coronavirus hospitalizations, while Florida notched its worst weekly increase in cases. Arizona and California also revealed spikes. The surging case counts pushed the US total above 2 million.{C} Naeem Aslam, chief market analyst at Avatrade, said: "The surge in the new coronavirus infection rate in the US has become the biggest concern for investors and this is denting the sentiment.{C}"For speculators, this is like Christmas coming early, they have been labeling the stock market rally as one of the most unloved rallies in the history of trading."{C}Aslam added: "Riskier assets are completely out of love and volatility is likely to surge once again."{C}Read More: The recent stock-market crash and the Great Depression of 1929 share an unnerving similarity that suggests the recovery will be more painful than many investors expect {C}Stephen Innes, chief global market strategist at AxiCorp, said: "With the US futures down nearly 3% it still feels like there is still too much good news in the price in the face of a secondary outbreak.{C} "What appeared to be little more than a flesh wound last week could yet prove to be a mortal one by week's end if the COVID-19 curve in the US does not revert," Innes added. {C}Here's the market roundup as of 11.10 a.m. in London (6.10 a.m. ET):European equities fell, with Germany's DAX down 1% Britain's FTSE 100 down 1% and the Euro Stoxx 50 down 1.1%Asian indexes fell. Hong Kong's Hang Seng fell 2.1% , China's Shanghai Composite fell 1%, and Japan's Nikkei fell 3.5%.US stocks are set to open lower. Futures underlying the Dow Jones Industrial Average are down 1.8%, the S&P 500 down 1.6%, and the Nasdaq down 1.3%. Oil prices fell. West Texas Intermediate fell 1.8% at $35.62 a barrel and Brent fell 0.8% to $38.42 a barrel. The benchmark 10-year Treasury yield fell to 0.68%.Gold fell 1% to $1717 per ounce. {C}As well as seeing a surge in virus cases, China also reported mixed economic data Monday.Analysts at Rabobank said: "As an example of that China's latest data releases have mostly disappointed. New home prices were up 0.5% m/m, as that epic bubble shows yet another mini-leg higher. However, in the actual economy we saw industrial production up only 4.4% y/y (vs. 5.0% expected."{C}"In short, even with a 'build it and they will come' attitude, and even with the virus "having been beaten", it still looks like China's Q2 GDP will be negative [year-on-year]," added Rabobank's analysts. {C} Value-added industrial output, grew 4.4% year on year and was higher than the 3.9% of growth recorded in the previous month. But a Caixin survey had expected industrial output to 5%. {C}The bearish sentiment fed into both US and international oil markets. WTI was down as much as 5% in earlier trade, although it had rebounded by late morning in Europe.{C}Jeffrey Halley, senior market analyst, Asia-Pacific, OANDA, said: "Oil prices climbed very modestly on Friday in sympathy with equities but have sunk rapidly this morning as secondary outbreak COVID-19 concerns sweep the markets."{C}Both benchmarks recorded sharp losses on Thursday when fears first surfaced that a second wave is due to hit the US.{C} SEE ALSO: China's economy is slowly crawling back from its coronavirus slump, but the 'very high' risk of a second wave looms large » READ NOW: One of the world's biggest energy firms cut its 30-year forecast for oil prices by 27% as coronavirus turns the industry on its head » SUBSCRIBE NOW: SHARE THIS POST FACEBOOKTWITTEREMAILCOPY LINK Sponsored Video by Big Jim's got you covered. Ready to protect your home and auto todayGet a Quote Dianomi / Ad 00:00 live00:00 00:00 Video Ad by http://www.dianomi.com/img/dianomi-max-200x38.png× your MARKET VIEWYour Personalized Market CenterName Price +/- % DATE DJIADow Jones 30 Industrial 24,985.00 -555.00 -2.17% 06/15/2020 08:40:19 AM INXS&P 500 3,102.90 -80.30 -2.52% Official Close 6/11/2020 Global stocks tanked on Monday as investors assessed increases in COVID-19 cases and the odds of another lockdown in China and increasing infections in the US, as fears of a so-called second wave grow.The Financial Times reported on the weekend that 80 new cases were recorded in Beijing over the weekend. This marked the end of a 50 day period where Beijing had reported no new case, raising the specter of a second wave of COVID-19 and lockdown hitting the Chinese capital. The risks spooked investors all across the globe, with every major stock index down. Read More: Bernstein says buy these 7 stocks that are unfairly beaten-down and built for explosive gains in the futureFutures underlying the three major stock indices in the US were all set to open lower by more than 1.5%.Markets were already volatile last week as the US faced an uptick in COVID-19 cases, and many states discussed re-tightening lockdown measures.The risks prompted the Dow to face its worst day since March last Thursday, in part due to the risks of a second wave and as traders weighed Fed Chair Jerome Powell's comments that the pandemic could result in permanent damage to US employment. {C}Texas reported record coronavirus hospitalizations, while Florida notched its worst weekly increase in cases. Arizona and California also revealed spikes. The surging case counts pushed the US total above 2 million.{C} Naeem Aslam, chief market analyst at Avatrade, said: "The surge in the new coronavirus infection rate in the US has become the biggest concern for investors and this is denting the sentiment.{C}"For speculators, this is like Christmas coming early, they have been labeling the stock market rally as one of the most unloved rallies in the history of trading."{C}Aslam added: "Riskier assets are completely out of love and volatility is likely to surge once again."{C}Read More: The recent stock-market crash and the Great Depression of 1929 share an unnerving similarity that suggests the recovery will be more painful than many investors expect {C}Stephen Innes, chief global market strategist at AxiCorp, said: "With the US futures down nearly 3% it still feels like there is still too much good news in the price in the face of a secondary outbreak.{C} "What appeared to be little more than a flesh wound last week could yet prove to be a mortal one by week's end if the COVID-19 curve in the US does not revert," Innes added. {C}Here's the market roundup as of 11.10 a.m. in London (6.10 a.m. ET):European equities fell, with Germany's DAX down 1% Britain's FTSE 100 down 1% and the Euro Stoxx 50 down 1.1%Asian indexes fell. Hong Kong's Hang Seng fell 2.1% , China's Shanghai Composite fell 1%, and Japan's Nikkei fell 3.5%.US stocks are set to open lower. Futures underlying the Dow Jones Industrial Average are down 1.8%, the S&P 500 down 1.6%, and the Nasdaq down 1.3%. Oil prices fell. West Texas Intermediate fell 1.8% at $35.62 a barrel and Brent fell 0.8% to $38.42 a barrel. The benchmark 10-year Treasury yield fell to 0.68%.Gold fell 1% to $1717 per ounce. {C}As well as seeing a surge in virus cases, China also reported mixed economic data Monday.Analysts at Rabobank said: "As an example of that China's latest data releases have mostly disappointed. New home prices were up 0.5% m/m, as that epic bubble shows yet another mini-leg higher. However, in the actual economy we saw industrial production up only 4.4% y/y (vs. 5.0% expected."{C}"In short, even with a 'build it and they will come' attitude, and even with the virus "having been beaten", it still looks like China's Q2 GDP will be negative [year-on-year]," added Rabobank's analysts. {C} Value-added industrial output, grew 4.4% year on year and was higher than the 3.9% of growth recorded in the previous month. But a Caixin survey had expected industrial output to 5%. {C}The bearish sentiment fed into both US and international oil markets. WTI was down as much as 5% in earlier trade, although it had rebounded by late morning in Europe.{C}Jeffrey Halley, senior market analyst, Asia-Pacific, OANDA, said: "Oil prices climbed very modestly on Friday in sympathy with equities but have sunk rapidly this morning as secondary outbreak COVID-19 concerns sweep the markets."{C}Both benchmarks recorded sharp losses on Thursday when fears first surfaced that a second wave is due to hit the US.{C} SEE ALSO: China's economy is slowly crawling back from its coronavirus slump, but the 'very high' risk of a second wave looms large » READ NOW: One of the world's biggest energy firms cut its 30-year forecast for oil prices by 27% as coronavirus turns the industry on its head » SUBSCRIBE NOW: SHARE THIS POST FACEBOOKTWITTEREMAILCOPY LINK Sponsored Video by Big Jim's got you covered. Ready to protect your home and auto todayGet a Quote Dianomi / Ad 00:00 live00:00 00:00 Video Ad by http://www.dianomi.com/img/dianomi-max-200x38.png× your MARKET VIEWYour Personalized Market CenterName Price +/- % DATE DJIADow Jones 30 Industrial 24,985.00 -555.00 -2.17% 06/15/2020 08:40:19 AM INXS&P 500 3,102.90 -80.30 -2.52% Official Close 6/11/2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 I like how 50 or 80 cases is a "wave" in a giant country like china. In the US we still have 20-25K a day, meaning that the true number is likely in the hundred thousand plus(every day), yet when some states numbers go up by a few hundred they call it a wave...no it's not, not a wave, not a ripple, it's pure disinformation as well as fear mongering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 In the US we still have 20-25K a day, meaning that the true number is likely in the hundred thousand plus(every day)Yet you say it's gone July 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 Yet you say it's gone July 1 It will be, gone doesn't mean it doesn't exist - it will always exist(even after a vaccine), it means it's of no consequence. Deaths are on a steady decline and there's no reason to think that wont continue. In late april/early may people thought we would be locked down indefinitely, 6 weeks later that's all gone, life is returning to normal. Stop listening to lies from people that have been putting out misinformation since this started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted June 15, 2020 Report Share Posted June 15, 2020 could be a 2nd wave if they want it release a 2nd strain, just like they released the 1st strain just like they are provocing riots all across the west and crushing the middle classes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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