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I predict that we will see kneeling in the NFL this season by a # of players on most teams.

In light of what has occurred the past week I do not think we will see the NFL owners show much negative attitude towards it.

 

Also think we see some NBA players do the same.

You are hoping. Get it.
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People who are veterans fought for my right to stand, or my right to kneel.

 

Many of those MOTHERFUCKERS seem to forget that.

 

Or do I have it wrong somewhere?

Agree, you have every right and that is what they fought for. If they find it disrespectful or a slap in the face oh well. Its your right.

 

And shame on your employer for asking you not too just because they know a percentage of their base views it as disrespectful. Those guys are free to turn off the TV and the employer can suck it.

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Related, but off topic:

 

Communism/advanced socialism

 

My MAIN problem with it isn't the same main problem as most opponents of it.

 

My main problem with it is that most of the time, it is FORCED on the general public of these countries where it exists. If they "kneel" so to speak, they are usually arrested, sentenced to long-ass prison terms, or executed.

 

We don't have that here. A basic non-violent protest shouldn't end with you getting fired or shot. My uncle and my father were Vietnam veterans, and they fought for people to be able to decide if they want to stand or kneel peacefully.

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In 1892, three men, including a friend of Ida B. Wells, were lynched by a white mob while in police custody in Memphis, Tennessee, in an event known as the Peoples Grocery lynching. The act sparked a national outcry. At a meeting of one thousand people at Bethel A. M. E. Church, Reverend W. Gaines' call for the crowd to sing the then de facto national anthem, "My Country, 'Tis of Thee", but the call was refused, one member of the audience declaring, "I don't want to sing that song until this country is what it claims to be, 'sweet land of liberty'".[1][2] The Reverend substituted the Civil War-era song about the abolitionist martyr, "John Brown's Body". Well's husband, Ferdinand L. Barnett, closed the meeting appealing for calm and a careful response, but also expressing great frustration and concern that the violence against blacks may one day lead to reprisals.[1][2]

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In the 1960s, refusal to stand during the anthem took place for a number of reasons. In the late 1960s, the protest became increasingly common among athletes and at schools, both as a protest of the Vietnam War and as a protest of nationalism. In December 1968, Chris Wood, co-captain of the Adelbert College basketball team was removed from the team for not standing, saying, "We believe in the fellowship of man. We don't believe in nationalism."[11] Five white high school students were suspended in Cumberland, Maryland in February 1970.[12] A federal judge Joseph P. Kinneary ordered reinstatement of a pair of students in Columbus, Ohio, saying that forcing anyone to participate in "symbolic patriotic ceremonies" against their will was a violation of the First Amendment to the US Constitution.[13]

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Random thoughts

 

I remember throughout school we had to say the pledge of allegiance everyday with hand over hearts

Jehovah's witnesses were not forced to say it or place hand over hearts  but every teacher did ask that they stand.

 

The older me wishes I would have just stood up quietly during this show of forced nationalism.

 

I remember not standing for the anthem at public events during my rebellious stage at around 17-19

Pissed my dad off but never heard any shouts from others.

 

I stand for the hell of it a ballgames theses days, stretch my legs. Not down with holding hand over my heart. Fuck says I have to remove my hat, doesnt make sense to me but I have been known to do it sometimes.

 

If I am in line for concessions I do not necessarily stop for anthem but will  stand there without comments if others are in front of me or concession workers choose to hold up the line.

 

If Cats want to kneel then kneel, I suppose Im more pissed at how much attention is spent reporting it and making a big deal of the showing.

 

AND above all Fuck Kap

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I had dinner with the lady who was the young child that the Supreme Court case was about. West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette and later,

Barnette v. Board of Education

 

She was over a friend's house, and I stopped by for something. Stayed for dinner and a first-hand account of the story.

 

Her nickname was Ollie. She was like kindgergarten age at the time.

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