Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 As many of y'all know, my voting record was Bush/Bush/Obama/Obama/Trump. So I represent the group that has helped sway major power changes, with Obama-to-Trump being a starker change than Bush-to-Obama. Now, I am not saying that I AM voting for Biden for sure, but the Dems were smart to listen to requests of people like me and going to two Centrists in Biden/Harris. People like Balco point to Kamala's voting record and paint her as a radical. However, her actual record when she was AG and otherwise was very centrist and very much law and order---a theme Reps play up themselves very well, and Harris is sorta hiding publicly, but knows serves her well privately. In early Summer 2016, I was firmly liking Hilary and laughed off Trump. But then a sudden shift had me realizing that he was not only winning, but WHY I wanted him to---to stop the rapid post-modernist movement that is trying to rewrite society with lightning speed. And so I ended up shifting gears and found myself on the winning side yet again. This time around, I am seeing a bit later in the summer that Biden is inevitable and am shifting my thoughts to gear up for his Presidency. Haven't fully come around to vote for him, but while I have many views that strongly resemble people like Fair Warning and Tailsyoulose, I also see that not only have Leftists been far more successful in their messaging, there's another sentiment amongst regular people: "What's in it for us?" Now, I do not know the full ramifications of Medicare for All and other social programs, but I do know that the squeeze in this pandemic has made people far more focused on self interest than ever before. And quite simply, Dem social programs resonate more with people than nation building/sustaining ideology that the Republicans offer up. So, while Biden/Harris may be a "trojan horse" for the Radicals to assume full power once again, our nation gives us a safeguard by hosting elections every two years, so for those of you concerned, prepare yourselves to vote for the House/Senate 2022. F'n El Chapo was correct all along: Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 A vote for DEM is ANTI-USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 As many of y'all know, my voting record was Bush/Bush/Obama/Obama/Trump. So I represent the group that has helped sway major power changes, with Obama-to-Trump being a starker change than Bush-to-Obama. Now, I am not saying that I AM voting for Biden for sure, but the Dems were smart to listen to requests of people like me and going to two Centrists in Biden/Harris. People like Balco point to Kamala's voting record and paint her as a radical. However, her actual record when she was AG and otherwise was very centrist and very much law and order---a theme Reps play up themselves very well, and Harris is sorta hiding publicly, but knows serves her well privately. In early Summer 2016, I was firmly liking Hilary and laughed off Trump. But then a sudden shift had me realizing that he was not only winning, but WHY I wanted him to---to stop the rapid post-modernist movement that is trying to rewrite society with lightning speed. And so I ended up shifting gears and found myself on the winning side yet again. This time around, I am seeing a bit later in the summer that Biden is inevitable and am shifting my thoughts to gear up for his Presidency. Haven't fully come around to vote for him, but while I have many views that strongly resemble people like Fair Warning and Tailsyoulose, I also see that not only have Leftists been far more successful in their messaging, there's another sentiment amongst regular people: "What's in it for us?" Now, I do not know the full ramifications of Medicare for All and other social programs, but I do know that the squeeze in this pandemic has made people far more focused on self interest than ever before. And quite simply, Dem social programs resonate more with people than nation building/sustaining ideology that the Republicans offer up. So, while Biden/Harris may be a "trojan horse" for the Radicals to assume full power once again, our nation gives us a safeguard by hosting elections every two years, so for those of you concerned, prepare yourselves to vote for the House/Senate 2022. F'n El Chapo was correct all along: Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States. Yea, you fell in love with everyone, Beto, sanders, there were a couple others, you're a flake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Yea, you fell in love with everyone, Beto, sanders, there were a couple others, you're a flake. BS. I never liked Beto. Said I saw his appeal. You're just talking shit cuz I don't slurp like you do. Now, I did like Bernie when I saw that FDR type speech. Other thing that helps Biden to win (if looking at it as an observer and not partisan): He's targeting Conservative Women and Moderate Men. And I guarantee he;ll win more of them than Trump does the Black vote. All just points to Biden winning. So, time to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 BS. I never liked Beto. Said I saw his appeal. You're just talking shit cuz I don't slurp like you do. Now, I did like Bernie when I saw that FDR type speech. Other thing that helps Biden to win (if looking at it as an observer and not partisan): He's targeting Conservative Women and Moderate Men. And I guarantee he;ll win more of them than Trump does the Black vote. All just points to Biden winning. So, time to adjust. Whatever dude, vote for who you want. Maybe it was buttboy, not beto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatboatboat Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 LolNever stop mike.Please never stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 LolNever stop mike.Please never stop Hard to have rational discussions when people are unfair in their framing. Analyzing/predicting isn't the same as supporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 Words Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 the big upside of a winning Biden/negro ticket would be the increased acceleration towards a Balkanized USA. ultimately, whatever gets us there fastest is fine by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Sandbox this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Dems are favored to win AZ per BOL. They're also favored to win WI/MIN, but I do wonder if the rioting will easily make those states vote R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Lemme jot all this down The ramblings of a reformed hippie and amateur psychologist are always some good shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 They're just as good as a feminized joey who always needs to focus on other men =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Biden Biden I'm with Joe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Biden Biden I'm with Joe!Never a reason given, just BS from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Dems are favored to win AZ per BOL. They're also favored to win WI/MIN, but I do wonder if the rioting will easily make those states vote R. You wonder huh? Yea, it's really tough to figure that one out, makes you wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 You wonder huh? Yea, it's really tough to figure that one out, makes you wonder. Well, it would normally be obvious that people will go opposite. But... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Well, it would normally be obvious that people will go opposite. But...They're not going the opposite, they're making a decision about who they want to run the country, a party that encourages lawlessness is not what people want. Who would want to live in a world where others can steal, assault, burn, even kill without consequence? NO ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifty cint Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 A vote for DEM is ANTI-USAYour so full of shit.Go change your diaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Your so full of shit.Go change your diaperlook, it's DUMBO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Biden can target conservative women and moderate men all he wants. They ain't voting for him. This election is now 80% about the riots. 20% covid/economy. Trump is going to get 60% or more of the male vote. I think the male minority vote is gonna surprise a LOT of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 The BIDEN RIOTS are destroying America's cities, and must be stopped. People don't like living in fear of mobs. Who would have guessed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 They're just as good as a feminized joey who always needs to focus on other men =)Get well soon, Tegs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chapo2017 Posted August 27, 2020 Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 As many of y'all know, my voting record was Bush/Bush/Obama/Obama/Trump. So I represent the group that has helped sway major power changes, with Obama-to-Trump being a starker change than Bush-to-Obama. Now, I am not saying that I AM voting for Biden for sure, but the Dems were smart to listen to requests of people like me and going to two Centrists in Biden/Harris. People like Balco point to Kamala's voting record and paint her as a radical. However, her actual record when she was AG and otherwise was very centrist and very much law and order---a theme Reps play up themselves very well, and Harris is sorta hiding publicly, but knows serves her well privately. In early Summer 2016, I was firmly liking Hilary and laughed off Trump. But then a sudden shift had me realizing that he was not only winning, but WHY I wanted him to---to stop the rapid post-modernist movement that is trying to rewrite society with lightning speed. And so I ended up shifting gears and found myself on the winning side yet again. This time around, I am seeing a bit later in the summer that Biden is inevitable and am shifting my thoughts to gear up for his Presidency. Haven't fully come around to vote for him, but while I have many views that strongly resemble people like Fair Warning and Tailsyoulose, I also see that not only have Leftists been far more successful in their messaging, there's another sentiment amongst regular people: "What's in it for us?" Now, I do not know the full ramifications of Medicare for All and other social programs, but I do know that the squeeze in this pandemic has made people far more focused on self interest than ever before. And quite simply, Dem social programs resonate more with people than nation building/sustaining ideology that the Republicans offer up. So, while Biden/Harris may be a "trojan horse" for the Radicals to assume full power once again, our nation gives us a safeguard by hosting elections every two years, so for those of you concerned, prepare yourselves to vote for the House/Senate 2022. F'n El Chapo was correct all along: Joe Biden will be the next President of the United States. As Usual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 Get well soon, Tegs! Always a pleasure, Broseph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted August 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2020 The BIDEN RIOTS are destroying America's cities, and must be stopped. People don't like living in fear of mobs. Who would have guessed? I absolutely detested the rioting/looting/burning down of buildings. And this cycle has been much worse than 2016 when I figured folks would vote the other way. However, if you pay attention to messaging, a common thread emerges: Dems gloss over the violence/destruction etcReps gloss over the reason for the riots to begin with I do think Mike Pence did well tonight in attempting to show empathy for the AA community while also being firmly Law and Order, but mostly, Trump n Reps have ignored the reason for the riots in the first place, and Dems and Biden/Harris have merely showcased the outrage from police incidents while trying to pretend that the protests are all peaceful. BUT...where Biden/Harris have a strong advantage (should they use it) is if/when they seek to curtail the violence/looting by at least feigning interest in Law and Order and seeking to make everything 100% peaceful. WHen they have a strong MSM and all these professional associations/corporations doing their bidding, they can quick flip messaging on a dime if it is of vital importance to their electoral chances. Reps have always been the best at framing issues very darkly through political commercials/propaganda, and Dems have sure given them plenty to work with. It's just after watching their convention closely and knowing who they have on their side, they have that quick flip potential to capture enough Conservative Women/Male Moderates to make the difference. Now, I'd have no problem with being completely wrong/offbase and have a resounding Trump victory force the Left to move fully back to the Center again, but I just think that they found the proper formula to at least capture the Center interest to win it all-----and hoping it's not a trojan horse for radicalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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