joeybagadonuts Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, mikeman said: I hear they will raise the limit to $10K, that's money in or out - pretty much everyone moves money into their checking account and then spends it, so that's $5000 each way - anyone who spends $420/month would fall into the scrutiny group - they're the rich millionaire's and billionaire's they're going after. So fucking dumb. 10k lol. Move that in and out every week and I’m far from the rich people they claim to be going after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, WVU said: I don’t disagree with this post at all. But the proposed bill does nothing for the middle class despite your claims. The middle class needs a break. They are the biggest consumers and contribute the most to our economy and society as a whole. This proposal won't help the middle class? $726 Billion Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Fund universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year olds. Provide child care for working families. Create tuition-free community college. Invest in HBCUs, MSIs, HSIs, TCUs, and ANNHIs. Increase the maximum Pell grant award. Invest in school infrastructure, student success grants, and educators. Fund primary care. Invest in maternal, behavioral and racial health equity. Fund pandemic preparedness initiatives. Promote workforce development and job training, among other initiatives. I realize the main winners of smaller bipartisan bill will be the big corps, construction companies. Businesses that have been reaping huge profits for decades. The middle class will receive indirect benefits. It's the 2nd infrastructure bill, that will benefit the middle class in a big way. The proposed 3.5 trillion dollar bill is huge for the poor and middle class. Unfortunately it is being blocked by 100% of Republicons along with piece of shit multi million Joe Machin. Ironically West Virginia is one of the poorest states in the country and Joe Manchin's constituents would benefit the most from a 3.5 trillion human infrastructure plan. Joe Manchin is the most disingenuous democratic senators in the U,S, Senate. He continues to argue "we are coming together". Tomorrow there will be a senate vote on a voting rights bill. All 50 democrats will vote yes. But 60 votes are needed. Joe Manchin has been saying for months he'll be able to get 10 Republicons to join the D's and break the RepubliCon Filibuster. How do you think this will turn out for disingenuous Joe? I once heard Joe Manchin say this about his daughter: "My daughter is the most compassionate person I know". HEATHER BRESCH, JOE MANCHIN’S DAUGHTER, PLAYED DIRECT PART IN EPIPEN PRICE INFLATION SCANDAL A new email shows the former Mylan CEO worked with her counterpart at Pfizer to corner the market and keep costs up. HEATHER BRESCH, the former president and CEO of the drugmaker Mylan, worked directly with the CEO of Pfizer to keep prices of the company’s EpiPen product artificially high, according to new documents released as part of an ongoing lawsuit. The documents also show Bresch approving a scheme to force customers, captured by the company’s monopoly, to purchase two EpiPens at once, regardless of medical need. The EpiPen is an auto-injectable device that injects epinephrine into the body and can be the difference between life or death for a person suffering a severe allergic reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bigrunner said: Isn't Steve Bannon the Neo-Nazi that was indicted for stealing millions from a sham build a wall fund, that Trumptards donated millions to. You can't make this up. Neo-Nazi gets indicted for stealing millions from Trumptards only to receive a pardon from Donald Trump himself. All this happened around 4 years after Trump was caught stealing millions from charity. Bannon? Was he pardoned by Trump for that? News to me. I do not focus my existence on that kind of stuff which has zero effect on my life. However that guy in the photo? Even IF Bannon did what you claimed. Well that guy is a trillion times worse. He is your master. He will make anyone that works for a living life worse with that BULLSHIT great reset bill from Biden the mandate MASS MURDERER. PERIOD. Do you know who he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, xyz said: But the middle class is the problem for the Top of the Food chain. Guys like this? He remains untouched and gets even wealthier with Biden's great reset plans. While anyone with a bank account who makes a $600 transaction or greater will be reported to the irs. While paying $6.00 for regular unleaded and $8.50 for milk. Quit watching Fox News. Obviously this is fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, xyz said: Bannon? Was he pardoned by Trump for that? News to me. I do not focus my existence on that kind of stuff which has zero effect on my life. However that guy in the photo? Even IF Bannon did what you claimed. Well that guy is a trillion times worse. He is your master. He will make anyone that works for a living life worse with that BULLSHIT great reset bill from Biden the mandate MASS MURDERER. PERIOD. Do you know who he is? These Republicon crimes and acts of deplorable behavior weren't reported on Fox News. No wonder why low info xyz had no idea. Trump pardons Steve Bannon as one of his final acts in office "President Trump granted a full pardon to Stephen Bannon. Prosecutors pursued Mr. Bannon with charges related to fraud stemming from his involvement in a political project," the statement from White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany read. "Mr. Bannon has been an important leader in the conservative movement and is known for his political acumen." Bannon faces a federal case that began in August when New York federal prosecutors charged him and three others with defrauding donors of more than a million dollars as part of a fundraising campaign purportedly aimed at supporting Trump's border wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 The Trump Organization is facing another criminal investigation in New York over its golf course's financial dealings, report says "Donald Trump was the greatest president ever". Fishtard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: Quit watching Fox News. Obviously this is fake news. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! He is Larry Fink. The King of Wallstreet. He owns you. Unless you own some LAND? Then he only OWNS maybe 1/4 of you. Fox news? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! They could not wipe their own asses with what is actually going on. I will say this, Fox is just about tied now with Msnbc. Both having the most MENTALLY CHALLENGED individuals working there. Fox News! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bigrunner said: This proposal won't help the middle class? $726 Billion Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Fund universal pre-K for 3- and 4-year olds. Provide child care for working families. Create tuition-free community college. Invest in HBCUs, MSIs, HSIs, TCUs, and ANNHIs. Increase the maximum Pell grant award. Invest in school infrastructure, student success grants, and educators. Fund primary care. Invest in maternal, behavioral and racial health equity. Fund pandemic preparedness initiatives. Promote workforce development and job training, among other initiatives. I realize the main winners of smaller bipartisan bill will be the big corps, construction companies. Businesses that have been reaping huge profits for decades. The middle class will receive indirect benefits. It's the 2nd infrastructure bill, that will benefit the middle class in a big way. The proposed 3.5 trillion dollar bill is huge for the poor and middle class. Unfortunately it is being blocked by 100% of Republicons along with piece of shit multi million Joe Machin. Ironically West Virginia is one of the poorest states in the country and Joe Manchin's constituents would benefit the most from a 3.5 trillion human infrastructure plan. Joe Manchin is the most disingenuous democratic senators in the U,S, Senate. He continues to argue "we are coming together". Tomorrow there will be a senate vote on a voting rights bill. All 50 democrats will vote yes. But 60 votes are needed. Joe Manchin has been saying for months he'll be able to get 10 Republicons to join the D's and break the RepubliCon Filibuster. How do you think this will turn out for disingenuous Joe? I once heard Joe Manchin say this about his daughter: "My daughter is the most compassionate person I know". HEATHER BRESCH, JOE MANCHIN’S DAUGHTER, PLAYED DIRECT PART IN EPIPEN PRICE INFLATION SCANDAL A new email shows the former Mylan CEO worked with her counterpart at Pfizer to corner the market and keep costs up. HEATHER BRESCH, the former president and CEO of the drugmaker Mylan, worked directly with the CEO of Pfizer to keep prices of the company’s EpiPen product artificially high, according to new documents released as part of an ongoing lawsuit. The documents also show Bresch approving a scheme to force customers, captured by the company’s monopoly, to purchase two EpiPens at once, regardless of medical need. The EpiPen is an auto-injectable device that injects epinephrine into the body and can be the difference between life or death for a person suffering a severe allergic reaction. No, it won't help most of the middle class. The low income requirements on nearly all of these proposals would leave them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, WVU said: No, it won't help most of the middle class. The low income requirements on nearly all of these proposals would leave them out. Really, the average income of the middle class couple in WV is over $150,000? Single person is over $75,000? You're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Senate confirms Joe Manchin's wife Gayle to $163K-per-year federal post This is just wrong. So wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Bigrunner said: Really, the average income of the middle class couple in WV is over $150,000? Single person is over $75,000? You're wrong. I don't live in WV. What about the 91k household max income to get the stimulus we already talked about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, WVU said: I don't live in WV. What about the 91k household max income to get the stimulus we already talked about? I wasn't talking about this. I'm not aware of any stimulus linked to household income of 91K. I believe you, I'm just not aware of this component of the proposed infrastructure bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: I wasn't talking about this. I'm not aware of any stimulus linked to household income of 91K. I believe you, I'm just not aware of this component of the proposed infrastructure bill. do you not read your own posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 here, I'll help you out. This was from your link: For Immediate Release: March 11, 2021 Contact Info: Margaret Mulkerrin 202-225-3130 Today, President Joe Biden signed the American Rescue Plan into law to immediately deliver relief to Americans. This comprehensive law takes bold action to defeat the COVID-19 pandemic while providing needed assistance to bolster the economy. The American Rescue Plan provides funding for vaccine distribution, direct stimulus payments to families, ensures schools have the resources to resume in-person learning safely, supports small businesses, and gives municipalities the funding they need to keep our law enforcement officers, teachers, firefighters, and other essential workers on the job. Learn more about how the American Rescue Plan will help working families build back better: New York Times: New Stimulus Package Brings Big Benefits to the Middle Class “Whether they are direct stimulus payments, an array of tax benefits or an expansion of the Affordable Care Act, the bill will bring a big economic lift to middle-income families…. An analysis by the Tax Policy Center published this week estimated that middle-income families, those making $51,000 to $91,000 per year, will see their after-tax income rise by 5.5 percent as a result of the tax changes and stimulus payments in the legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 If your income rises 5.5% but inflation rises 8% who wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, WVU said: If your income rises 5.5% but inflation rises 8% who wins? The wealthiest 1% are the big winners. Then the next wealthiest 5% are the 2nd biggest winners. The poor and middle class lose as usual. And that will always be the case when the ruling class is a minority made up of billionaires and big corporations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 The middle class will always be the victim when Democrats serve the interests of giant corporations and their billionaire owners. And half the voters are too stupid to understand that they're the ones getting fucked by the people they think are helping them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Russell Brand's podcast is extremely well done. He's a classic liberal but he's one of the few who still think critically about each issue and researches the validity of things he's fed by the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: The wealthiest 1% are the big winners. Then the next wealthiest 5% are the 2nd biggest winners. The poor and middle class lose as usual. And that will always be the case when the ruling class is a minority made up of billionaires and big corporations. And who do you think is doing the bulk of their dirty work Dummy? Who are the main sponsors of all the FAKE NEWS that you spew as truth? That foot rot has spread to your brain years ago and its only getting worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 You think the record unpaid for 8 trillion Trump and the Republicons added to the national debt is a good thing? I believe there has only been 2 presidents over the last 50 years that didn't increase the national debt during a 4 year term. Two presidents that created a surplus, both Dems, Clinton and Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: You think the record unpaid for 8 trillion Trump and the Republicons added to the national debt is a good thing? I believe there has only been 2 presidents over the last 50 years that didn't increase the national debt during a 4 year term. Two presidents that created a surplus, both Dems, Clinton and Obama. There's zero comparisons between the 2 parties. One party is evil, horrific, a basket full of deplorables, doesn't know how to govern, wants to take away women's and minority rights. The exact opposite for the party of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, WVU said: If your income rises 5.5% but inflation rises 8% who wins? But the 5.5% doesn't include increase in wages or SS benefits. 5.5% increase in income is a great start. Obviously America has the wealth to do better. But the ruling class won't allow it. They have bought the Senate, House, State Legislators and SCOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 My gal marjorie with more truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, WVU said: If your income rises 5.5% but inflation rises 8% who wins? You've mentioned inflation a few times now. Obviously you forgot about 2020. Maybe the worst economy since the great depression. Worst GDP in modern day history. An unheard of negative GDP. Worst job market since the great depression. Very little inflation, maybe negative? A stock market crash that was reversed by Treasury and government funding. Of course inflation will be high when a disastrous economic year is followed by a booming economy, booming housing market, healthy stock market. It's expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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