Mofome Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Bradford to Clev for pick 19 and Manziel Picks 19 and 20 to Tennessee along with Fletcher Cox, Mychel Kendricks. Tebow Manziel Mariota All in philly. That's the rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 If true (more than likely not), its exactly what the BOSS thinks Chip Kelly should do at the QB position. Bring in 3 QBs who can run his system. And arent afraid to take a hit. If one goes down, bring in the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Not seeing this anywhere. I have loved the moves Chip has made so far this offseason. Only one i didnt absolutely love was the Demarco signing at that money but at least it was a net win getting Demarco for less money than mccoy when Murray is better for his system. Mccoy more electric but i hate all the dancing he does and hate the way he holds the ball so loose. But this would be awful. I like Mariota, guy can probably win big with Philly longterm, but this team can compete for a SB right now with a healthy Bradford. Especially when the deals you are saying involve them losing stud DL fletcher cox. He was their best player last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Browns fans would love it. Get Bradford the #19. And still have the #12... This is far-fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Chip has also been very vocal about multiple picks >> one pick. Could be all lip service but sounded sincere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 That would be cool. They could have Manziel and Mariotta go every other play and bring Tebow in on the 3rd or 4th and shorts. I don't see how they would lose a game under this system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanie Mac Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Way too much for the #2 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 That would be cool. They could have Manziel and Mariotta go every other play and bring Tebow in on the 3rd or 4th and shorts. I don't see how they would lose a game under this system I could see Chip Kelly doing some dumb shit like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mofome Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Not seeing this anywhere. I have loved the moves Chip has made so far this offseason. Only one i didnt absolutely love was the Demarco signing at that money but at least it was a net win getting Demarco for less money than mccoy when Murray is better for his system. Mccoy more electric but i hate all the dancing he does and hate the way he holds the ball so loose. But this would be awful. I like Mariota, guy can probably win big with Philly longterm, but this team can compete for a SB right now with a healthy Bradford. Especially when the deals you are saying involve them losing stud DL fletcher cox. He was their best player last year Here's one place http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/04/2015_nfl_draft_rumors_sam_bradford_thinks_the_eagl.html And don't forget your buddy mo has more football connections than Joey has ghosts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanie Mac Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Cox and Kendricks are both in the last years of their deals with Kendricks currently holding out. Cox has a 8mil option for next year. It's def not the worst scenario I've heard but it's still a lot. Tenn would have to almost kickback another pick, prob 4th roundish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mofome Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Cox is the best player philly has. I hope he heads out of town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viejo Dinosaur Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Far fetched but I have seen stranger things.....Bradford sweating bullets..... Did you know that no sporting good stores in the Philadelphia area have any Bradford jerseys in stock..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Far fetched but I have seen stranger things.....Bradford sweating bullets..... Did you know that no sporting good stores in the Philadelphia area have any Bradford jerseys in stock..... IDK that bradford would be sweating bullets really. He will be a starter anywhere he goes. Im sure hed prefer Philly over somewhere like Cleveland but either way he will start and have a shot to earn a big time paycheck by staying healthy and putting up good numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sheckler Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Doesn't mention Manziel on Rotoworld, just says sending Bradford to Browns and trading those other folks for the no. 2 pick where they'd draft Mariota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryRunSome Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Way too much for the #2 pick It's actually just about right. It costs a fortune to move up to the 2 hole, from where they are sitting(19,20) The #2 pick has a 2600 point value. The 19 and 20 picks are 1725 combined. I'd like to see them be able to do the deal while holding onto Kendrick. It's not getting done without Cox. I wouldn't make the trade to begin with. Mariota will be a bust. But what they would be giving up is just about right. Fair value for both sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaddy Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 does philly want to win? jfc that is one way to lose and lose for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Never happen. Bradford's Chip's guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Never happen. Bradford's Chip's guy. Yea until he gets hurt again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroppier Milk Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I think it's funny as hell that Philly sporting good shops refuse to stock Bradford's jersey because they think Chip's trading him. Philly lost their 2 best WRs the last 2 years-- they swapped out Shady for Murray-- a wash at best-- traded away their starting QB for a guy who has played as many snaps as PO69 the last 2 years, let their best pass rushing end go, let their best OL go via FA--- And Philly fans think they're better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanie Mac Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 I think it's funny as hell that Philly sporting good shops refuse to stock Bradford's jersey because they think Chip's trading him. Philly lost their 2 best WRs the last 2 years-- they swapped out Shady for Murray-- a wash at best-- traded away their starting QB for a guy who has played as many snaps as PO69 the last 2 years, let their best pass rushing end go, let their best OL go via FA--- And Philly fans think they're better. You have to look at all Chip's moves as a whole, not individual. He devalues the WR position, which most good teams do too. Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb turned into elite WRs with Rodgers at QB. Patriots don't care about WR, Seahawks too.' Those teams value route running and spacing. Sure if you can get Randy Moss for like a 4th rd pick you grab it, but you don't waste a decent amount of cap on a guy who just runs fast down the field. You can find anyone to do that. Foles was never gonna win in this offense Shady made too much money and was could not grind tough yards at all, was only good in space If all this fails it really doesn't matter because last year's roster or 2 years ago wasn't gonna win a super bowl anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Raver Camper Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Didn't Bradford help get Murray to Philly? I know it is a business, but that would seem like a dick move if playing w/ Bradford again was one of the reasons he signed with Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mofome Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Philly swung and missed on Gore, I think Murray chased the eagles, previously the eagles stance was that you don't pay that position (Rb) big bucks; then they missed out on Gore and signed Matthews And Murray to go with Sproles. Not exactly a level headed approach to things from the Chipper. That's a lot of money at the RB position, a lot of new money. This RB class is loaded, Coleman in Philly would have been a nightmare, Im glad they paid for the injured vets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroppier Milk Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 You have to look at all Chip's moves as a whole, not individual. He devalues the WR position, which most good teams do too. Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb turned into elite WRs with Rodgers at QB. Patriots don't care about WR, Seahawks too.' Those teams value route running and spacing. Sure if you can get Randy Moss for like a 4th rd pick you grab it, but you don't waste a decent amount of cap on a guy who just runs fast down the field. You can find anyone to do that. Foles was never gonna win in this offense Shady made too much money and was could not grind tough yards at all, was only good in space If all this fails it really doesn't matter because last year's roster or 2 years ago wasn't gonna win a super bowl anyway. Here's the problem with that. You can devalue the WR position if you have Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady as your QB. Seattle is a different beast-- they run the ball to set up their play action. Philly doesn't do that particularly well either. In today's NFL-- you can have the best route runners in the game--- if you can't create space-- it's not working. If it were that easy, everyone would throw the ball as well as Green Bay and New England. Murray ran behind the best OL in football last year. Just wait til he gets to work behind Philly's mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroppier Milk Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Philly swung and missed on Gore, I think Murray chased the eagles, previously the eagles stance was that you don't pay that position (Rb) big bucks; then they missed out on Gore and signed Matthews And Murray to go with Sproles. Not exactly a level headed approach to things from the Chipper. That's a lot of money at the RB position, a lot of new money. This RB class is loaded, Coleman in Philly would have been a nightmare, Im glad they paid for the injured vets. Exactly. He has 13% of his salary cap tied up in 3 running backs. And people think he's being smart with Philly's money. And the best part-- look at the back of the Eagle defense. Still no safety at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanie Mac Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Oregon's offense has always been based around using the run to set up the pass, specifically guys that go north south. McCoy was more East-West. Their offense employs PA to open up the WRs. Who knows if it's gonna work, at least he trying something new. That's how you win without elite talent. No one in the division got better, Cowboys got worse losing Murray. Eagles feel like they can strike now. Uptempo offense needs multiple RBs that run downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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