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Who are we going to send?

That's right, our very BEST!  Transgenders and pregnant females.

Yeah, that will show Putin.

That cocksucking president of sniff has put this country in a bad corner.

Meanwhile, china is going to take Taiwan.  What will that communist sniffing pile of shit do about that?

 

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59 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said:

Thanks for sharing that Vitalyo.

My mother tells me that her mother was born in a town that had changed nations between Russia and Ukraine several times because the border kept changing. 

Wasn't at one time Ukraine considered to be the beeadbasket of Russia because of their strong agriculture industry?

LOL. You and me cold be relatives ! My mother is from eastern Ukraine ,city of Kramatorsk .When parents met my mother was a University student ,father was on the contract in Ukraine ,after 2 months they got married and moved to Russia city of Novorossiysk , that's my home right on the black sea .Yes Ukraine once had strong agriculture industry USSR era  ,not anymore  . The government is so corrupted the whole country is for sale  most of it been sold already . 

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11 minutes ago, vitalyo said:

LOL. You and me cold be relatives ! My mother is from eastern Ukraine ,city of Kramatorsk .When parents met my mother was a University student ,father was on the contract in Ukraine ,after 2 months they got married and moved to Russia city of Novorossiysk , that's my home right on the black sea .Yes Ukraine once had strong agriculture industry USSR era  ,not anymore  . The government is so corrupted the whole country is for sale  most of it been sold already . 

Who's buying?

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2 hours ago, mikeman said:

We wouldn't even attempt to intervene, it would be impossible to beat the russians there, we would not have any navel assets and they would have air superiority as well. We would huff and puff and do little but try to get them bogged down by supporting ukraine.

Mike and KK and few others got it right .It's an old article but worth to read https://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/what-the-hll-is-a-u-s-destroyer-doing-in-the-black-sea/ . KK wrote they are built for home defense  that's right . Whoever controls the Crimea controls the black sea so their wouldn't even be any naval war Russia could simply sink warships from the shore with the Bastion system, nor any air combats S-400 take care of that . 

PS. We are talking about nothing , it's like Russia would go fight US over Mexico invasion . 

 I don't like to talk politics but US blowing way too much money over the NATO , god forbid if shit hits the fan most of them will forget to to go to war .Just like the world war 2 when Italian solders all gone home when US warships showed up. So the Germans had to defend Italy . Same with France the other way around , French resistance casualties 20.000 people and 40.000 french man got killed in the battle of Stalingrad . Doesn't add up . All this "Nordic" divisions "Viking", " Normandy" ,"Scandinavia ".  "Westland" all Dutch  , the most volontiers in German army were Datch . Half a million Hangerians , about the same # Czech , the whole economy of Cech Rep was working for nazis . And the list goes on .After the war they are all of a sudden condemned fascism . 

 Tramp was right when he said you losers you need to chip in some dough . The situation US is in reminds me of the late USSR days feeding god knows who and straggling them self . Leonid Brezhnev in his days compere to Joe was a stud .

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7 hours ago, vitalyo said:

It's been 7 long years since west announced that Russia is about to got to war against Ukraine .LOL. Not happening , the beneficiary would be the west more sanctions on Russia and the arm sells .You have to ask yourself  What Russia has to gain by invading Ukraine ? 40 million ass broke people to feed , it's like US invading Mexico what are the benefits 126 million people ,half of them you would have to put on welfare .Woohoo . 

In 2014 when Ukrainian government was overthrown The United States spent $5 billion on Ukraine anti-government riots https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/14/ukraine-the-truth/ Russia took back Crimea it was only 2000 special operations unit , they moved them quietly in  the cargo ship . While building up force  near the central Ukraine, to deceive the true intentions . Russia also had 17000 navy base but they took no action in this operation . Ukraine had 19000 military force in Crimea . They all end up surrendering . No one got killed !!!https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26532154 . Remember when Russian took Pristina airport ? Incident at Pristina airport  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Pristina_airport   What an embarrassment for the NATO !  So when Russians go to war they do not advertise !

 It is actually the other way around Ukrainians been building up a force  at the 2 break away Republics .Russians brought military to come them down , majority of the people that lives in those 2 are Russians . The worst thing that can happen Ukrainians try invade them .In order to prevent massacre  Russian will destroy their command centers and military bases that are involved. Without crossing the border . 

Imagine Russians would hold a military exercise in Mexico 40 km away from US border . CNN would be on it 24/7 and every other news channel Massive, Army-led NATO exercise Defender Europe kicks off https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/03/15/massive-army-led-nato-exercise-defender-europe-kicks-off/ . 

 I don't know what Putin told to Biden but U.S. Cancels Warships Deployment to Black Sea -Turkish Diplomatic Sources https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-04-14/us-cancels-warships-deployment-to-black-sea-turkish-diplomatic-sources .US warships continuously been sailing near Russian waters Baltic sea included . You don't see Russian warships near your waters . Then CNN crying that Russian fighter jets unprofessionally flying over them .LOL

 

 Pretty cool video 

 

great post

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Found this somewhat unflattering description of the Ukrainian military.

The Ukrainian military is much like everything else currently found in the Ukraine—the railway system, the power plants, the pipeline systems, the ports, the factories (the few that are left)—a patched-up hold-over from Soviet times. The troops are mostly unhappy, demoralized conscripts and reservists. Virtually all of the more capable young men have either left the country to work abroad or have bribed their way out of being drafted. The conscripts sit around getting drunk, doing drugs and periodically taking pot shots into and across the line of separation between Ukrainian-held and separatist-held territories. Most of the casualties they suffer are from drug and alcohol overdoses, weapons accidents, traffic accidents caused by driving drunk and self-harm from faulty weapons. The Ukrainian military is also working on winning a Darwin award for the most casualties caused by stepping on their own land mines. As for the other side, many of the casualties are civilians wounded and killed by constant shelling from the Ukrainian side of the front, which runs quite close to population centers.

The Ukrainian military has received some new weapons from the US and some NATO training, but as the experience in Georgia has shown, that won’t help them. Most of these weapons are obsolete, non-updated versions of Soviet armaments from former East Bloc but currently NATO nations such as Bulgaria. These really aren’t of much use against an almost fully rearmed Russian military. A lot of the Ukrainian artillery is worn out and, given that Ukrainian industry (what’s left of it) is no longer able to manufacture gun barrels, artillery shells or even mortar rounds, this makes the Ukrainian military quite literally the gang that can’t shoot straight. It’s a great day for them if they manage to hit a kindergarten or a maternity clinic and most of the time they are just cratering up the empty countryside and littering it up with charred, twisted metal.

 

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3 hours ago, mikeman said:

Found this somewhat unflattering description of the Ukrainian military.

The Ukrainian military is much like everything else currently found in the Ukraine—the railway system, the power plants, the pipeline systems, the ports, the factories (the few that are left)—a patched-up hold-over from Soviet times. The troops are mostly unhappy, demoralized conscripts and reservists. Virtually all of the more capable young men have either left the country to work abroad or have bribed their way out of being drafted. The conscripts sit around getting drunk, doing drugs and periodically taking pot shots into and across the line of separation between Ukrainian-held and separatist-held territories. Most of the casualties they suffer are from drug and alcohol overdoses, weapons accidents, traffic accidents caused by driving drunk and self-harm from faulty weapons. The Ukrainian military is also working on winning a Darwin award for the most casualties caused by stepping on their own land mines. As for the other side, many of the casualties are civilians wounded and killed by constant shelling from the Ukrainian side of the front, which runs quite close to population centers.

The Ukrainian military has received some new weapons from the US and some NATO training, but as the experience in Georgia has shown, that won’t help them. Most of these weapons are obsolete, non-updated versions of Soviet armaments from former East Bloc but currently NATO nations such as Bulgaria. These really aren’t of much use against an almost fully rearmed Russian military. A lot of the Ukrainian artillery is worn out and, given that Ukrainian industry (what’s left of it) is no longer able to manufacture gun barrels, artillery shells or even mortar rounds, this makes the Ukrainian military quite literally the gang that can’t shoot straight. It’s a great day for them if they manage to hit a kindergarten or a maternity clinic and most of the time they are just cratering up the empty countryside and littering it up with charred, twisted metal.

 

Pretty much same article , you need to read it to the end https://inf.news/en/military/a8c90989a2a311bd644a8ae1d174dd97.html

 

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