Chi_Archie Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 crisis hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Teddy kgb said: They’d rather have All the trapped people inside die a slow death then to remove rubble and save a life or two while collapsing and killing the rest... it's hard to believe a land line would still be active after the collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 People will lie if they think it will stimulate a better search and rescue. This one has been pathetic. These guys can’t work if there is lightning nearby? Why the fuck not? They are paid well to face danger so let them do their jobs. Heroes don’t fucking care about lightning. This has not been a heroic effort. I have witnessed family members crying and pleading for more action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi_Archie Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, mikeman said: it's hard to believe a land line would still be active after the collapse. Prob one of those wearable alert technology things, that you can press a button to call for help or more likely here, that automatically call pre programmed numbers in case of it detecting a fall. This situation could easily cause the medical alert thingy to be a little haywire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi_Archie Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Teddy kgb said: The grandson is enjoying himself at the beach while his Nana is dying in the rubble.. Id be ripping rock of the rubble 10 at a time after the first phone call...this kid notifies the media for a photo opp it's a few old people dying. you can't expect life to stop for everyone. We need that grandson's $ to still be pouring into the local businesses. Can't cripple the local economy for a few old jews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, WVU said: People will lie if they think it will stimulate a better search and rescue. This one has been pathetic. These guys can’t work if there is lightning nearby? Why the fuck not? They are paid well to face danger so let them do their jobs. Heroes don’t fucking care about lightning. This has not been a heroic effort. I have witnessed family members crying and pleading for more action. I don't detect any urgency and haven't since the collapse, WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurryUpAndDrink Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, WVU said: People will lie if they think it will stimulate a better search and rescue. This one has been pathetic. These guys can’t work if there is lightning nearby? Why the fuck not? They are paid well to face danger so let them do their jobs. Heroes don’t fucking care about lightning. This has not been a heroic effort. I have witnessed family members crying and pleading for more action. apalling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 imagine your family members in that rubble and all everyone and the media is doing is praising the wonderful efforts of the brave men and women in this search and rescue. Tell the truth. This is a pathetic attempt at rescuing anyone. There is not much bravery going on here. 20 guys are on the rubble pile and underneath in the parking garage and 800 other guys are standing around doing absolutely nothing. And more people have been arriving to do the same thing, Sitting around drinking coffee/water and eating sandwiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just now, WVU said: imagine your family members in that rubbe and all everyone and the media is doing is praising the wonderful efforts of the brave men and women in this search and rescue. Tell the truth. This is a pathetic attempt at rescuing anyone. There is not much bravery going on here. 20 guys are on the rubble pile and underneath in the parking garage and 800 other guys are standing around doing absolutely nothing. And more people have been arriving to do the same thing, Sitting around drinking coffee/water and eating sandwiches. Good assessment. Even if rescue efforts are unlikely to produce survivors, wouldn't one assume there would be something of an expedited effort to provide at least some closure to the families? Very poor effort. I know for a fact that if the building were overwhelming populated by an ethnic group with traditionally louder grievances that the word racism would be being thrown around to describe the lackadaisical rescue efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi_Archie Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 it's Florida there are no real leaders or men there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Lightening huh? there's still a shitload of tall bldgs around, it' would be pretty hard for lightening to strike that pile when all those other tall objects are around. Then you have this imaginary fire that has no visible smoke, it's all BS. maybe there's some smoke in the basement but it's time to give that up, go back to the top and start picking it apart, that's easy, one piece at a time, toss it in a dumpster and haul it away. Pretty much every disaster of any kind anywhere turns into a love fest where every 1st responder is praised without end, it's sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, mikeman said: Pretty much every disaster of any kind anywhere turns into a love fest where every 1st responder is praised without end, it's sickening. I was by a local hospital yesterday with a large banner on the side that says "HEROES WORK HERE" with imagery reflecting the diversity of the staff. BARF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chi_Archie said: it's Florida there are no real leaders or men there Desantis. And I voted for the other guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted June 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, mikeman said: Lightening huh? there's still a shitload of tall bldgs around, it' would be pretty hard for lightening to strike that pile when all those other tall objects are around. Then you have this imaginary fire that has no visible smoke, it's all BS. maybe there's some smoke in the basement but it's time to give that up, go back to the top and start picking it apart, that's easy, one piece at a time, toss it in a dumpster and haul it away. Pretty much every disaster of any kind anywhere turns into a love fest where every 1st responder is praised without end, it's sickening. the smoke is real. I've seen it up close and from my place. It has since dissipated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HinesWard86 Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 Glad to see that you're okay WVU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HinesWard86 Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 As for the term "heroes", I hate that it's bandied about so wantonly these days. People aren't "heroes" for doing their job. First responders aren't heroes for first responding, doctors and nurses aren't heroes for providing medical care, military members aren't heroes for doing military things. Wish that people stopped misusing hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 I disagree... I think all those you mentioned are hero’s I never had the balls to join the military and think those that do are hero’s...it becomes a problem for me when they call school teachers hero’s, that’s a fvcking joke if there ever was one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts179 Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 im hearing $125/hr some of them. to just stand around and chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Hustle Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 wouldn't surprise me if the owner blew the place up. it was up for inspection so why not cash in on the insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ts179 said: im hearing $125/hr some of them. to just stand around and chat Sounds like a forum Mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted June 27, 2021 Report Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Teddy kgb said: Sounds like a forum Mod Very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts179 Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 if this was india there would be 1000 ppl crawling like ants all over the pile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted June 28, 2021 Report Share Posted June 28, 2021 Have they blamed it on global warming or raaaaacism yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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