RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, MonkeyF0cker said: Yes. Let's partake in an elaborate scheme to try to lie to the public with absolutely no motive. Makes sense. Nope , NO motive whatsover to make an elaborate scheme to fool the public....it sure couldnt be for money or power Those are silly reasons so lets rule those out. They totally went to the moon and made that half a milly round trip mile journey multiple times without losing anyone using computer technology from 50 years ago.to boot !!!!...Simply amazing Even if NASA representatives have literally admitted on camera MULTIPLE TIMES they have not been able to account for the Van Allen radiation belt and dont have the ability to send people deeper in space. Maybe all these people mispoke If you want the truth fellas , its out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 And what money and power did they get? So none of this happened? https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/apollo-11-van-allen-radiation-belts-translunar-injection/ The truth is out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: And what money and power did they get? So none of this happened? https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/apollo-11-van-allen-radiation-belts-translunar-injection/ The truth is out there. NASA gets about a 25 billion annual dollar budget to play with these days. Massive scam organization. The US got to say they were the first to put a man on the moon. Look I get it Monkey , I used to be brainwashed like yourself on this subject. Its hard to overcome a lifetime of programming, I can attest to that. There is so much evidence that it could not have happened, lies that NASA told about the event(s) and then you top it off With NASA's own people say that they cant go to the moon. Maybe next year or sometime later you will be ready for the truth instead of NASA and their shills propaganda machine. I wont even say I told you so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Perhaps the most amazing thing to me is how Nasa was able to make this fine module from Aluminum foil, paper mache , shower curtain rods, and duct tape AND make it withstand the harsh realities of space. Top of the line durability....sure it was kinda weird looking and Im pretty sure a group of JR High nerds could have made it look better for a science fair but all that matters is how well it held up to the elements. Those MOFOS are geniuses indeed and you can behold this miracle in HD and zoom in to all the nooks and crannies right here https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/aa/b4/feaab4800ab74f0e8008180d2eaffdd4.jpg?fbclid=IwAR3SH3qNjvNB8upqHSQy9f1uNFJ_5ifXQYlz3si2oP9vVhFfc8q4JXY8eCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 So you can't dispute anything in the article I posted. Mostly because it's way over your head. And definitely made of curtain rods. If you know how big an American flag is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 What's funny is you're calling other people brainwashed while literally claiming that you're smarter than a rocket scientist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: What's funny is you're calling other people brainwashed while literally claiming that you're smarter than a rocket scientist. You are rocket scientist on top of computer expert sweet! I did read that article and correct I dont understand all the high end technical shit, but the takeaway is "nah, not that dangerous, plus we took a special route" Doesnt change the fact that there are well over a couple hundred issues, fallacies, lies and inconsitancies with the whole moon landing foolishness. I also understand fully when multiple guys from NASA state we cant go to the moon on TOP of all the other issues.... guess they should have read that article.....lol I used to believe and there are too many falsehoods to ever bring me back on this one. I know they are Gods to you and you believe whatever they and their propagandists tell you but NASA is a scam beng perpetrated on the American Public ...one day you may search for truth yourself and when you do I wont say I told you so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, MonkeyF0cker said: And what money and power did they get? So none of this happened? https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/apollo-11-van-allen-radiation-belts-translunar-injection/ The truth is out there. Since you were kind enough to provide this article for me allow me to return the favor and present this one to you. Highly researched, plenty of footnotes. I trust that you will understand the technical stuff as much as I understand this simple statement from a "rocket scientist" regarding radiation outside Earths magnetic field. Believe it or dont, at least you have an alternate point of view regarding the severity of the radiation. https://www.aulis.com/orion_vanallens.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 The Kennedy family and Fidel Castro formed a partnership to create a moon based tobacco plantation in an effort to corner the global cigar market. Obvious motive for the space program... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, RaiseThese said: Since you were kind enough to provide this article for me allow me to return the favor and present this one to you. Highly researched, plenty of footnotes. I trust that you will understand the technical stuff as much as I understand this simple statement from a "rocket scientist" regarding radiation outside Earths magnetic field. Believe it or dont, at least you have an alternate point of view regarding the severity of the radiation. https://www.aulis.com/orion_vanallens.htm I worked at a nuclear plant when i was younger and was near radiation areas all the time, you can be exposed to radiation(even at fairly high levels) and the effects are minimal if it's brief. On a short trip to the moon with an extremely short interval of passage through the van allen belts the exposure would be very low. On a longer mission to mars or elsewhere it would be more concerning and then shielding of some sort would be advisable - water might be used as it's a tremendous barrier to radiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: The Kennedy family and Fidel Castro formed a partnership to create a moon based tobacco plantation in an effort to corner the global cigar market. Obvious motive for the space program... it was a shitty joke when you posted it the first time last night did you think it would be funnier in the daylight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RaiseThese said: You are rocket scientist on top of computer expert sweet! I did read that article and correct I dont understand all the high end technical shit, but the takeaway is "nah, not that dangerous, plus we took a special route" Doesnt change the fact that there are well over a couple hundred issues, fallacies, lies and inconsitancies with the whole moon landing foolishness. I also understand fully when multiple guys from NASA state we cant go to the moon on TOP of all the other issues.... guess they should have read that article.....lol I used to believe and there are too many falsehoods to ever bring me back on this one. I know they are Gods to you and you believe whatever they and their propagandists tell you but NASA is a scam beng perpetrated on the American Public ...one day you may search for truth yourself and when you do I wont say I told you so. I see the chinese are planning manned missions to the moon that aren't that far off - I guess they're getting into the "faking game". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, mikeman said: I worked at a nuclear plant when i was younger and was near radiation areas all the time, you can be exposed to radiation(even at fairly high levels) and the effects are minimal if it's brief. On a short trip to the moon with an extremely short interval of passage through the van allen belts the exposure would be very low. On a longer mission to mars or elsewhere it would be more concerning and then shielding of some sort would be advisable - water might be used as it's a tremendous barrier to radiation. okay , okay....now Mike is a rocket scientist.....you cant make this shit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, mikeman said: I see the chinese are planning manned missions to the moon that aren't that far off - I guess they're getting into the "faking game". Let me know when they launch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, mikeman said: I worked at a nuclear plant when i was younger and was near radiation areas all the time, you can be exposed to radiation(even at fairly high levels) and the effects are minimal if it's brief. This was the source of the Alzheimers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, RaiseThese said: okay , okay....now Mike is a rocket scientist.....you cant make this shit up. You need to do your research - here's a blurb from the article monkey posted. It remains possible for astronauts to be affected by solar storms. For example, if any of them had been travelling to the Moon during the solar event of August 1972, they would have been exposed to life-threatening amounts of radiation. The Apollo 11 crew had received 0.18 rem each on average (‘rem’ stands for ‘roentgen equivalent man’). To compare, one CT scan delivers about 1 rem. To kill an adult human, you’d have to deliver 300 rem or more in a very short span of time, but if it is spread over weeks or even days, there will be few effects. About 50 rem delivered at once will cause radiation sickness. Even if there had been a solar storm when Neil Armstrong and Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, Jr. were on the Moon, they could have been protected by the Apollo command module: it was built to attenuate 400 rem on the outside to less than 35 rem on the inside. Attenuation numbers are usually denoted in units of areal density, grams per sq. cm. A typical Apollo suit had a strength of 0.25 g/cm2 while the Apollo command module hull had a strength of 7-8 g/cm2. The hull of the International Space Station, to compare, has a strength of 15 g/cm2 in the specially shielded areas. We were indeed lucky that the August 1972 event happened between the last two Apollo flights: Apollo 16 had returned in April and Apollo 17 set off to the Moon in December. No major solar particle events have occurred during the Apollo 8 or 11 missions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, RaiseThese said: it was a shitty joke when you posted it the first time last night did you think it would be funnier in the daylight? So now you're an expert on International Affairs? Maybe you should do some research... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, mikeman said: You need to do your research - here's a blurb from the article monkey posted. It remains possible for astronauts to be affected by solar storms. For example, if any of them had been travelling to the Moon during the solar event of August 1972, they would have been exposed to life-threatening amounts of radiation. The Apollo 11 crew had received 0.18 rem each on average (‘rem’ stands for ‘roentgen equivalent man’). To compare, one CT scan delivers about 1 rem. To kill an adult human, you’d have to deliver 300 rem or more in a very short span of time, but if it is spread over weeks or even days, there will be few effects. About 50 rem delivered at once will cause radiation sickness. Even if there had been a solar storm when Neil Armstrong and Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, Jr. were on the Moon, they could have been protected by the Apollo command module: it was built to attenuate 400 rem on the outside to less than 35 rem on the inside. Attenuation numbers are usually denoted in units of areal density, grams per sq. cm. A typical Apollo suit had a strength of 0.25 g/cm2 while the Apollo command module hull had a strength of 7-8 g/cm2. The hull of the International Space Station, to compare, has a strength of 15 g/cm2 in the specially shielded areas. We were indeed lucky that the August 1972 event happened between the last two Apollo flights: Apollo 16 had returned in April and Apollo 17 set off to the Moon in December. No major solar particle events have occurred during the Apollo 8 or 11 missions. Yes , now why dont you read the article that I posted for an alternate view. https://www.aulis.com/orion_vanallens.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: So now you're an expert on International Affairs? Maybe you should do some research... No im an expert on shitty jokes and yours are shitty. Ive been researching them for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, RaiseThese said: This was the source of the Alzheimers. The plant I worked at (prairie island) was a PWR(pressurized water reactor) so any radiation was confined to the auxilary bldg, when you would exit it you would step into a scanner that would detect any radioactive contamination on your clothing, etc. it wasn't that unusual for it to alarm. When it did it might indicate your right leg for example, meaning a piece of radioactive dust was likely on your pants., you would take your pants off , they would wash them and you would put a new pair of pants on. it was routine and unimportant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 I hope that Jets stay in the UK after that game yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 hours ago, RaiseThese said: Since you were kind enough to provide this article for me allow me to return the favor and present this one to you. Highly researched, plenty of footnotes. I trust that you will understand the technical stuff as much as I understand this simple statement from a "rocket scientist" regarding radiation outside Earths magnetic field. Believe it or dont, at least you have an alternate point of view regarding the severity of the radiation. https://www.aulis.com/orion_vanallens.htm So you think that's an indication that NASA didn't go to the moon? Because Mars (where astronauts would obviously spend far more time in space and be exposed to cosmic radiation) is a technological challenge? That proves something to you? WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiseThese Posted October 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 8 hours ago, MonkeyF0cker said: So you think that's an indication that NASA didn't go to the moon? Because Mars (where astronauts would obviously spend far more time in space and be exposed to cosmic radiation) is a technological challenge? That proves something to you? WTF. ?? hahahahaha okay pal, so you chose not to read the article....... I knew better than to try having an honest discussion with a serial spinner whose only goal is to win the internet no matter what. I guess im an eternal optomist... You win sir!!!! Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, RaiseThese said: ?? hahahahaha okay pal, so you chose not to read the article....... I knew better than to try having an honest discussion with a serial spinner whose only goal is to win the internet no matter what. I guess im an eternal optomist... You win sir!!!! Congrats. As always, when you can't answer a simple question, you try to deflect and reaffirm your stupidity. I was responding your post and if you can't comprehend that Mars is quite a bit further than the moon which creates far more exposure to cosmic radiation, then you're beyond help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Another pet peeve of mine is the usage of the term "reaching out", it's a constant refrain - we reached out to so and so, I reached out, we should reach out. Just say we asked for comment and received none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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