Shavencoinpurse Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 They've given away over a Billion dollars in sign on bonuses. They have huge prize pools each tournament. Yet, no TV deal, few if any sponsors that I know of, and small crowds from what I hear. Are they just ok to hemorrage money forever? Worst business model imaginable on paper. What am I missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 CRAZY The business model is SAUDI MONEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 They're thinking global while the PGA model is dated. Global interest dwarfs the US. Majors in Tokyo, Dubai, Singapore, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 I watched a lot of it this tourney, it was great, the crowds are not small(at all), they are loud and the golf is very good with far more big names than you'll find at most PGA events. They dont have few sponsors they have NO sponsors, no commercials at all during the broadcast, I think the on camera analysis is good(david ferhety is top notch) and virtually everything about it is superior. Did you watch any of it? That is my question. I agree that I dont understand why they dont get a tv outlet - it seems to me they could get any channel at all - a shopping channel if needed this first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcarroll33 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 The pgatour is pretty much copying everything they do. Tiger and Rory supposedly have the their own tour they’re working on too. Everything they’re spending now to get players is nothing more than a drop in the bucket for them. It’s the first year, and all the tv stuff is probably on it’s way next year. No network would sign up to broadcast a league with no guranteed players. That’s all set now. I think they’re here to stay. I don’t care about the politics of either tour. I say make every tournament as close to the WMPO as possible, which LIV is trending more towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 They allowed shorts this weekend, took some getting used to but that wears off fast. As far as the TV goes, they need to get on cable/sat - period, there's 150 channels, someone would put them on for free hoping to get 500K viewers. I'm honest when I say today's tourney was the most exciting golf iv'e seen in years. it went to a playoff with lots of drama, DJ rammed the winning putt in for eagle from long range to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcarroll33 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, mikeman said: They allowed shorts this weekend, took some getting used to but that wears off fast. As far as the TV goes, they need to get on cable/sat - period, there's 150 channels, someone would put them on for free hoping to get 500K viewers. I'm honest when I say today's tourney was the most exciting gold iv'e seen in years. it went to a playoff with lots of drama, DJ rammed the winning putt in for eagle from long range to win. You’re kind of reaching here. I saw the hole out. It was good but I’ve had more 50k plus wins in golf that were way more exciting than that. Even recently Will the Thrill’s battle vs Sepp was cooler drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, Gmcarroll33 said: You’re kind of reaching here. I saw the hole out. It was good but I’ve had more 50k plus wins in golf that were way more exciting than that. Even recently Will the Thrill’s battle vs Sepp was cooler drama. that was just the win, it was the build up that made the viewing. I love the shotgun start with everyone playing all the time. On the PGA the last hour there's only 8-10 players and you dont see action, with LIV they show constant action, far more actual shots, less pre shot boring routines. All you have to do is watch it and you'll see. the next tourney is in 2 weeks in chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Hustle Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 PGA will go extinct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Saudi backed…. Low viewership. Need an app and a streaming deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeinkeToWarrick Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Shotgun start is retarded. Who the fuck cares what someone on the other side of the course is doing when they’re 10 shots back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavencoinpurse Posted September 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 How did you watch it mikeman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Shavencoinpurse said: How did you watch it mikeman? It's on u tube, it's free, stream it to my TV - picture is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 trash format Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Financially back by a serial killer. Supported by some of the most inhumane rich people of the world. Phil Mickelson is a multi million dollar rat. Money is all that matters to LIV employees. Just a peek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyRuder Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Great decision by Mickelson. He said he was using Saudi tour for leverage on PGATour Then, what happened? ...Like Mickelson said, PGAtour just somehow found an extra 100mil to give away Everyone on PGA tour owes Mickelson for this move,, and I dont even like the scumbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyRuder Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: Money is all that matters to LIV employees. Just a peek. Relax tough guy Every job has a salary from where you work flipping burgers up to all other professional sports. Finally golf does as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chapo2017 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 LIV Needs To Raid the WTA... Give Ashleigh Barty $100 Million (Guaranteed) to UN-Retire and play Queen Iga... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcarroll33 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: Financially back by a serial killer. Supported by some of the most inhumane rich people of the world. Phil Mickelson is a multi million dollar rat. Money is all that matters to LIV employees. Just a peek. Yet the pgatour has sponsors of their tournaments that do 40 billion worth of business a year with the Saudis. The only difference is the pgatour hogged all the money. I don’t care about LIV vs pgatour one way or the other but that argument is beyond hypocritical. Anything more golf wise I can gamble on the better too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chapo2017 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 https://www.goadnews.com/saudi-arabia-creator-of-liv-golf-sets-its-sights-on-womens-tennis/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcarroll33 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Supposedly they're also entertaining the idea of entrance music for golfers. Fittingly enough the rumors are that the DX theme is what some are going with. I think they're getting a little too goofy, and again should just make every tournament a party like the WMPO atmosphere. They're sort of doing that, but also doing stuff that won't fly long term on tv for golf, and they need to get a network by next year for this to really kick off. They're already loaded with talent for the league size they were shooting for. Time to make it real and worth it for everybody that joined and the fans to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 hours ago, RudyRuder said: Relax tough guy Every job has a salary from where you work flipping burgers up to all other professional sports. Finally golf does as well No shit Sherlock. Not every job is paid by a billionaire serial killer. Work for LIV you work for a billionaire serial killer. To each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcarroll33 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Bigrunner said: No shit Sherlock. Not every job is paid by a billionaire serial killer. Work for LIV you work for a billionaire serial killer. To each their own. What’s the difference between being paid by the Saudi’s to play golf in their league, vs playing for the pgatour who depends on sponsors to fund their tour and those sponsors do 40 billion of business a year with the Saudis? They’re involved either way. If it was really an issue the pgatour would have never let any sponsor fund a tournament that had any business dealings with the evil Saudis. Instead they gladly did business and took the money and tournaments and doted out a prize purse of their choosing. The Saudis are just paying them more. If you really believe every last one of these golfers viewed it as “yeah I’ll just take the blood money” with sponsors and PR people advising then you’re nuts. I prefer the pgatour and 4 rounds and the way it’s always been but I don’t fault Greg Norman for trying this out or any golfer for going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyRuder Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Ive been around golf all of my life I think the PGAtour ruined golf. They monopolized every other country/area with their own tour, weeding out any competition go check Hooters Tour and how well it was doing........nothing like that exists any more Canada tour, latino, asian, hell even the goddamn euro tour is now ran by the HOLY pga tour???????? fukkin morons like bigrunner thinks he is saving the world by backing the pgatour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcarroll33 Posted February 20, 2023 Report Share Posted February 20, 2023 World #34 Thomas Pieters, Danny Lee, and Brendan Steele to LIV. It looks like their team model is to go for a global reach by having global teams kind of like the Ryder Cup and World Cup where each country roots for their own. All the Aussies are on the same team, all the South Africans on the same team, all Spanish and Mexicans on the same team, all South Americans on the same team, etc. They need to get real and play 4 rounds but other than that this league is awesome. Every week is a party like the WMPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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